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PhilosiraptorDinosaurs ForumSpinosaurus Would WinMay 18, 2013
I also heard that Spino weighs more than 20 tons when full grown. WTF? Maybe it's because when it got longer, everything also got wider and taller. I would have thought like 10 or 11!!! We'll (probably) never know for sure though...
ReplyPhilosiraptorJurassic World ForumGiganotosaurus In Jurassic Park?May 18, 2013
That'd be a pretty cool idea. It wouldn't take much to differentiate them, like you said, it could be as simple as a different color or some spikes!
ReplyMakaveli7Dinosaurs ForumSpinosaurus Would WinMay 18, 2013
The intimidation was probably Spino's go to tactic. I like that you pointed out the millions of years of evolution! I do think that while Spino wasn't built for combat, it wasn't a pushover. Certainly capable of at least defending itself.
Replyx_paden_xJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 should have an AMP suit like AVATAR??May 18, 2013
"i like my dinos real not shaken..." *BURSTS OUT LAUGHING* best james bond parody ever XD
but you do also bring up a point about something bad happening on the island *playing around in photoshop * how about this?
[img]http://www.pizap.com/gallery_display_page4.php?imagename=pizap.com10.83013458456844091368851942989.jpg&datestamp=051813[/img]
*having problems lately and it wont post so just uh copy and paste url into seach bar*
sorry if its of poor quality this is my second shot at it my first one was very good
as seen here in the picture *from the idea of them surviving in magma chambers* we have someone in a hazmat suit running from a t rex, the park is in a code red at the given time
Reply ALI3NJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 should have an AMP suit like AVATAR??May 17, 2013
You do have a solid point their, but it is science fiction so anything could be possible. I had this brilliant idea before as to where the island has become quarantined because of a deadly outbreak and people aren't allowed to leave the island. They must find a cure before they kill off the dinosaurs.
My other idea was that people where talking a lot about this island retreat off the coast of Costa Rica, so this couple one this trip through a raffle ticket. They do go to Isla Nublar, but they soon realize that this place is not paradise. It was a test to see if humans could survive in a Dino infested jungle. As the couple must stop these evil guys from using the dinosaurs as a bioterrorists weapon.
These are just some ideas thrown around.
ReplyLord VaderDinosaurs ForumT.Rex vs. GigantosaurusMay 17, 2013
Well when it's a pack of Giga against a lone Rex obviously Giga has the advantage. One on one, T-Rex could judge distance, it was smarter, it had the bite force advantage, it would just be a great fight to see.
ReplyLord VaderDinosaurs ForumSpinosaurus Would WinMay 17, 2013
You do have a good point. I'm glad your not going to rage when someone has a different opinion than yours. I personally doubt that Spino weighed more than 10 tons. It did likely have powerful arms to drag up some big fish (I bet Spinosaurus Rex is going to say how Spino didn't eat only fish or much fish). It was up to 60 feet long, but it was lightly built. It's long jaws may have been a slight disadvantage. I agree with how you said most Dino-battles didn't get to the fighting, and how Spino would intimidate most creatures. Spino was not really built for combat (weak jaws for large predator, conical teeth, delicate sail, watch S-Rex say how superior Spino was in combat). T-Rex also had millions of years of evolution over Spino.
Replyx_paden_xJurassic Park ForumJP origins production status/notesMay 17, 2013
they have actually began shooting parts of the film :D *judging by their facebook*
ReplyMakaveli7Dinosaurs ForumSpinosaurus Would WinMay 17, 2013
Don't worry, I won't "go all rage" :). Actually, your post was the one that inspired mine. And while I respect your opinion, I do disagree. Thanks for replying!
Replyx_paden_xDinosaurs ForumSpinosaurus Would WinMay 17, 2013
here is my exact post comparing rex to spino and weighing the odds of them meeting in combat
"(height is measured in the biggest skeletons found)
T rex vs Spinosaurus
height 40 feet 50 feet
length - 40 feet - 60 feet
speed - 17.9 mph - 12 mph
weapons
primary large jaws and teeth - large hand claws for
powerful neck muscle - slashing and ripping
secondary for ripping. and - weak small jaws
third - powerful leg muscles - leg muscles for kicking
- for kicking feet claws-
diet - scavenger/hunter - fisher
- diet consisting of --- eats a lot of fish and
- other dinos big or small --- the ocasional dino
weight---- 7 tons
21 tons
name definition - tyrant lizard -- spiny lizard
location -- north america -- south america,africa,some of asia
family -- Tyrannosauroidea -- Spinosauria
now i shall write a story about the fight
In a clearing in the jungles of isla nublar a t rex and a spino confront each other. The spino makes a long hissing noise as it circles around with the rex, the rex lets out an ear splitting roar and charges the spino. The rex comes and head butts the spino. The spino caught off guard is flung for a few meters landing at the end of the clearing it pulls itslef up and lets out a roar. The two charge at each other the spino biting with its small useless jaws at the rexs neck and trying to use its claws to scratch the rex. The rex fends it off and bites the spinos neck, the spino lets out a roar of pain and scratches the rex with its claws, both have drawn blood. The rex limps to the side but the spino kicks the rex and the rex flops to the ground the spino charges the rex but the rex kicks it back. The spino is flung head over heels landing on its back crushing its sail into its spine the spino doesn't give up though. He lets out another roar and takes a big slash at the rex scratching its face horribly the rex stands back blinded for a few seconds giving the spino enough time to attack again. The rex can smell it with its impaired vision and charges as its vision comes back into play.It charges the spino right where its neck ends off at the belly winding the giant spino the spino flops over onto its side still breathing... the rex comes down for the kill but the spino bites its neck. Instead with the spinos frail jaw the rex has it easy with shaking it off with its giant neck muscles. Flinging the heavy animal into the air. The spino lands on its side near death as the rex comes in for the final kill it bends down and rips the spinos neck to shreds. With its neck tearing off the head the spinos body spasms and then flops over dead... The rex lets out a triumphant roar which can be hear throughout the island
explanation: with the animals chances of ever meeting in real life impossible (there was a 25,000 million time difference in between them) the spino was built for fishing not fighting although it would take down a wounded or sick animal a few times it wasn't build for fighting although its claws were very very affective in the fight having slashed the rex in many places and blinding him the spino was a close match to the rex... the rex had a very strong neck muscle meant for ripping the animal with the side to strong side movement, the rexs head was built to take hits which is why he rammed the spino using its teeth to grip onto the animal it used its neck to shake usually breaking the animals back...
now before you go all rage on this discussion hear me out this was from the biggest specimens of them found (yes i did take into account the bombed one and made up a height for it) all this info is taken from palaeontology sites and stuff
yes this battle was between sue (rex) and bombie (the bombed spino)"
these facts be true, deny it or not, the answer is rex.
Replyx_paden_xJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 should have an AMP suit like AVATAR??May 17, 2013
grendal???? dont remember any grendal companies.... no sireee bob
although you do bring up a good point about mr.stark possessing tech years ahead of its time...
and a small conspiracy could add some spice to the next trilogy, and with ingen on the brim of "extinction" they probably would've either bought or were sold to grendal ind or they would've partnered up...
its all possible and would look really cool *as i mentioned in the PM* but im not too sure if it quite "fits" into jurassic park... right now we dont have these amp suits for military combat, I've only ever heard/seen about them in Asia and they're in very rough and buggy shape...
but its interesting to see one in jp 4...
Reply ALI3NJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 should have an AMP suit like AVATAR??May 17, 2013
Well, it could be build by Grendel, who formed partners with InGen, they are able to create technology surpass this time frame, so they could joint ventures with InGen. An example like Stark Industries, from the Avengers. Tony is very intelligent and the technology he creates is present day. They could have the most highly intelligent scientists and high tech equipment, that they are able to produce this technology. InGen could have asked permission from Grendel, which is a secret advanced agency run by a secret government. (They created the F22 raptors and other high tech stuff, people assumed it was the Air Force that created them but it was actually Grendel Ind.) Think Grendel like Weyland industries from Prometheus.
So this technology could be ready for primetime, when developed by the most advanced technologies Grendel uses, and also from the most intelligent scientists. So even though InGen was known for creating dinosaurs, nobody knows that Grendel supplied them with the most highly advanced technologies. So it could be plausible to be built.
Replyx_paden_xJurassic World ForumSpinosaurusMay 17, 2013
well there never was a spino on nublar and a land bridge is a very hard thing to just pop up over night....
what can we rex fans do??? we cant help it if the truth ticks him off.. :3
ReplyLord VaderJurassic World ForumSpinosaurusMay 17, 2013
I agree, the fight in JP3 was BS, but I like Spino. I think it would be cool to have both T-Rex and Spino in the movie. They could be on the same island (Spino gets to Nublar on a land bridge, maybe), and have a fight at the end with T-Rex winning. I think it would be cool if the case had the JP logo, and the JP3 logo facing each other. Watch S-Rex think that this discussion is stupid because everyone is mad at how Spino won in JP3.
Replyt-rex90Jurassic World ForumSpinosaurusMay 17, 2013
I agree. I also liked Jurassic Park 3 even though it's not considered to be one of the best out of the movies. Spinosaurus, I still like it too because of it's look, I think having it and the Rex end their fight in a draw would've been descent too.
Replyt-rex90Jurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 DinosaursMay 17, 2013
T-Rex and The Velociraptors of course but I'd also like to see a Dilophosaurus return and make some more appearances as well as a fight scene with a live full grown Triceratops. A Mosasaur or Leopluradon would also be cool to see in an ocean scene. For herbivores, Therizinosaurus, Brontosaurus, and Iguanadon would be nice.
Replyx_paden_xJurassic Park ForumJP origins production status/notesMay 17, 2013
okay so this is some production photos i have found
[img]http://jporigins.com/gallery/galleryDinosauria/files/page7-1007-full.jpg[/img]
raptor handlers costume...
[img]http://jporigins.com/gallery/galleryDinosauria/files/page7-1002-full.jpg[/img]
cgi rex tests...
[img]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uDRlUZwLz_8#t=86s[/img]
this is a cgi helicopter... TOTALLY BELIEVABLE
[img]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uDRlUZwLz_8#t=117s[/img]
some of the props and models for cgi
[img]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uDRlUZwLz_8#t=211s[/img]
the iconic waterfall with a cgi helicopter
this is the most interesting CGI/ costume test pictures ive found so far, keep checking back for updates
Replyx_paden_xJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 DinosaursMay 17, 2013
im afraid not brady, the spino was a one time thing *sadly* it was put in to do things rex could never do, *ie: hunt down a boat and raise more hell then imagined* in interviews about the subject the dinosaur advisor jack Horner, said that he was tired of seing rex win and he wanted to change it up... giving us spino, however in a real fight rex would've won *these facts have been compared and are indeed true*
also there is no spino on isla nublar how would we see another one???
sorry but we probably wont see spino again in jp4, if anything we will see most of the dinos on the original tour
Replyx_paden_xJurassic World ForumSpinosaurusMay 17, 2013
i agree completely the spino winning really pissed me off, but it opened up some possibilities we couldn't do with rex, aside from spino the film was pretty good, not my favorite but it was good....
as for my last discussion on how rex should've won should be taken to heart for the next film... it would improve fan moral...
Replyx_paden_xJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 should have an AMP suit like AVATAR??May 17, 2013
me and ALI3N have been PMing about this, its very possible to do and such but.... does it quite frankly fit into the scenario i mean that would make an excellent fight scene, and we do have the technology 20 years later from the first jp but would ingen possess this equipment of destruction??? its possible and can be done but does it fit...?
Replybrady marshJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 DinosaursMay 17, 2013
i love the spinosaurus can we have that dinosaur
ReplyRex Fan 684Jurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 DinosaursMay 17, 2013
Of course I want Tyrannosaurus. I would like to see more of Ceratosaurus. I would not mind seeing an abelisaur of some kind, Tarascosaurus, Aucosaurus, etc. Another cool dino carnivore is Austrolavenator. As far as herbivores go, I like Edmontosaurus, Astrodon, Therizinosaurus, etc.
ReplyKING KAIJUJurassic Park ForumWhat was Your favorite scene from Jurassic Park 2- The Lost World?May 17, 2013
iliked the part when the trex started attacking the city and went into the neighbor hood and ate that dog. i also liked when the girl did that gymnastic kick on the velocirapter.
ReplyKING KAIJUJurassic Park Forumflying dinosMay 17, 2013
the pterasaurs flew out of isla sorna at the end of the third movie they are probobly flying to the next closest peice of land and pterasaurs are not dinosaurs they are flying reptiles. not trying to be mean im just saying.
ReplyThat's so RavenJurassic World ForumI'm planning on making a Jurassic Park 4 comic book!May 17, 2013
Muldoon survives in the novel and they were gonna have him in JP3 or in something else but the actor, bob peck, died in 1999. Also an idea might be to have what happened on the second island before the second film, we know that a hurricane wipes it out you can have new characters and how they were on the island and how they survived and got off it, not any of the ingen workers per-say, but like a researcher or a game keeper on site B.
ReplyMakaveli7Dinosaurs ForumHuge Little Known TheropodsMay 17, 2013
I forgot about Suchomimus. Thanks for the reminder Rex Fan 684. I do have sorta have Allosaurus on here, as a synonym of Epanterias.
Reply ALI3NJurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 should have an AMP suit like AVATAR??May 17, 2013
Well that would add to the suspense of the film, we could have the Rex start winning. It could help the film become more thrilling and scary cause like what would you do in that situation, it could be very relatable and you could feel for the character.
ReplyXenothinkerJurassic World ForumHow Will Recent Discoveries Affect Jurassic Park 4?May 17, 2013
1. the troodon reference is still in the air IMO because we do not know if filmmakers consider the JP Game as official canon. I think with regards to the movie it should not be considered as such until we know for sure.
2. I don't recall the island being bombed in the movie verse? In the books yes, it was bombed, but was it in the movie? In the movie verse, InGen has not filed for chapter 11 like it had in the books, which would lead me to believe that Site A would still be around and kicking. In the books half the reason the island was bombed was because of the animals breeding out of control/escaping to the mainland subplots. These were not in the movie version of the film (minus the breeding). Therefore there is no reason why, in the movie lore, the government would even need to bomb the island. InGen could have turned around and sued the pants off of the gov't for destruction of property et all. Not to mention all the spin off stories that take place off of movie verse Site A...
3. Just because InGen started the park in 1988, does not mean the dinos would naturally look the way they were assumed to look in 1988. The creatures would have grown into what we know dinos to look like today. However, Wu in both movie and book (albeit more books) does explain the genetic manipulation of the animals. I would argue it is the genetic manipulation that gives us the "classic" dinosaur look of the dinos on Site A...because InGen really only wanted people's money, therefore, as a corporation, they would want to give the public what the public thought dinos to look like.
Now, I would bet it safe to bet some of the animals, like in Site B, could start showing evolutionary traits to bring them back to the new ideas and concepts science is giving us about the animals. Many people, even science folk, seem to forget about the genetic tampering element of Jurassic Park. If they were to read the book, the first one in particular, they would learn of how much tampering InGen had with the animals. Some creatures were up to v4.
Another argument for why the dinos aren't the same visually as current ideas is this; the atmosphere and land, oxygen etc, are all different to when they originally lived, so evolution would develop differently.
ReplyMakaveli7Jurassic World ForumGiganotosaurus In Jurassic Park?May 17, 2013
T-Rex was likely only a pack hunter as a juvenile. I do agree that Giga and Rex look pretty similar, but I think that it could be differentiated from the T-Rex if the producers wanted it to be. They could add stuff like keratin knobs and stuff on top of a new coloration. Even if most people just perceive it as a mutated T-Rex I think it would be cool. I think a lone T-Rex could kill a lone Giga like 65% of the time.
ReplyRex Fan 684Jurassic World ForumGiganotosaurus In Jurassic Park?May 17, 2013
For one thing, Tyrannosaurus was also a pack hunter. Like Spinosaurus, I have a hard time believing that a Giganotosaurus could beat Tyrannosaurus. But not taking that into consideration, I still don't think Giga would make a good new superpredator. Don't get me wrong it's fearsome and huge, 45 feet long and 7-8 tons, but it's too close to T-rex. They both have huge bodies, big heads, long teeth, and pretty short arms. The only real difference at first glance is Giga had 3 fingers, not 2. Of course big time dinosaur fans would notice the more subtle differences right of the bat, but the general public, which outnumbers the dino fans 10-1, are not really gonna know the difference. Giga is still awesome though and the king of S. America.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumHuge Little Known TheropodsMay 17, 2013
Oh, how could I forget to mention the 30-35 foot long Allosaurus. Daspletosaurus was fearsome as well, attaining a size comparable to Allosaurus. Yutyrannus was the largest confirmed animal with feathers, 30 feet long. However, it's likely that Therizinosaurus had feathers, and it approached 36 feet long.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumHuge Little Known TheropodsMay 17, 2013
At 35 feet long, Suchomimus was also a very large carnivore. The 33 foot long Torvosaurus was about the same size as Allosaurus and was also very large. While the abelisaurids and ceratosaurids did not produce massive predators, the 23 foot long Ceratosaurus and carnivores like the 20 foot long Tarascosaurus or the 26 foot long Majungatholus are worth mentioning. At 25 feet long, Neovenator was another allosaurian relative with a nasty attitude. I know many other medium to larges sized carnivores, but you more or less listed all the super-sized ones already.
ReplyMakaveli7Dinosaurs ForumHuge Little Known TheropodsMay 17, 2013
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ReplyMakaveli7Dinosaurs ForumT.Rex vs. GigantosaurusMay 17, 2013
One on one, T-Rex would have a pretty good chance at winning, perhaps 60 or 65% of the time. However, given that Giganotosaurus was probably a pack hunter, a real run in would be in favor of the Giga pack.
ReplyMakaveli7Dinosaurs ForumCould have T-rex got much bigger than we all know?May 17, 2013
The age is an estimate. I imagine that after a certain age, a T-Rex's growth rate would slow dramatically. Sue was large, about 43 feet, but her growing had slowed. The new specimen was probably slowing even more, and would have reached maybe 46 or 47 feet before death.
ReplyMakaveli7Dinosaurs ForumWhy Spinosaurus WinsMay 17, 2013
I think Spino would win. I don't have a top favorite dinosaur but Giganotosaurus, Spinosaurus, and T-Rex are definitely at the top.
ReplyMakaveli7Jurassic World ForumJurassic Park 4 should have an AMP suit like AVATAR??May 17, 2013
I'm curious as to who would be operating it. It would be pretty awesome to fight with a T-Rex, but I can only imagine the terror one would feel if Rex started winning.
ReplyMakaveli7Jurassic World ForumIs there Any updates on JP4 ppl???? From trevorrow??May 17, 2013
JP4 is still in production, just delayed. Some adjustments are being made to the script presumably, but that should only take a little while. On top of that, perhaps some technical errors occurred. Either way, it's still happening, just probably not when we thought.
ReplyJhawkins1987Jurassic World ForumIs there Any updates on JP4 ppl???? From trevorrow??May 17, 2013
Thanks x paden x
Keep me posted !! :D
Replyx_paden_xDinosaurs ForumHuge Little Known TheropodsMay 16, 2013
the Therizinosaurus were covered in feathers and loked like a dr.suess idea gone horribly wrong...
i know one too many theropods to list... but ill tell you its near the 556 mark... *just the ones i know the appearance of an sometimes the names*
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