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Makaveli7

MemberCompsognathusMay-17-2013 9:41 PM
Now first off, you have to remember that most disputes amongst dinosaurs were settled by intimidation. So before the fight began, we have to assume that the T-Rex wouldn't back down. Spinosaurus' sail probably served as an intimidation device among other things, and it was probably pretty effective. A larger dinosaur with a scary sail that made it look even bigger was sure to have won a non-physical confrontation. Another misconception is that Spinosaurus had weak jaws. In absolute terms, it was massive. A full grown (about 43 feet) T-Rex's bite force was recently estimated at 6.5 tons. A Spinosaurus of the same size had a bite force of an estimated 3-3.5 tons. Still big, but not as huge as T-Rex's. however, recent estimates have put Spinosaurus at nearly 60 feet long. A Spinosaurus this large would have had a bite force of about 5.5 or 6 tons, due to its sheer size. Spinosaurus was primarily a piscivore, right? It must have preyed on some pretty massive fish to reach upwards of 54 feet. Fish back then had more armor, even more than the [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUQjslyarGI]alligator gar[/url] , and it would have to bite through it. And along with that, you have to imagine Spinosaurus had some pretty beefy arm and neck muscles to pull a multi-ton crocodile, fish or shark out of the water. Keeping in mind that it hunted crocodiles and sharks (if not, at least among them), it would have had some sort of defense, which has led some scientists to speculate that it had thick, leathery, tough skin, capable of stopping or at least resisting penetration from a bite. Though this would have a smaller chance of stopping a T-Rex's bite, it would at least hinder it. Also, another advantage it had would be the long arms. As I mentioned earlier, they were probably pretty muscular, and much more useful than those of the Tyrannosaurus. They could be used offensively, to slash and grip, at defensively, to push back. But you could argue that it was lighter. Well maybe not. Modern estimates suggest that it was 48 to 59 feet in length and up to 23.0 tons in weight. I know. I had to reread that, too. Well it was slower right? Well probably. Speed estimates for T-Rex range from 10-30 mph, with most suggesting a maximum of 25 for short distances. Spinosaurus probably wouldn't have been able to run as fast, perhaps only 15 mph.... But it would have been able to keep up longer. Another use of the sail was likely thermoregulation, so the Spino wouldn't get exhausted after a short burst of speed. Didn't matter. It only ate small dinosaurs. Maybe not. Most of what we know about Spino is based off of baryonyx, which has been shown to eat young Iguanodon, fish, and pterosaurs. Scaled up, Spino could have eaten anything from the smaller Ouranosaurus to Angolatitan, maybe even the huge Paralititan. So in conclusion, I have decided that the T-Rex would probably back out from the fight before it started, due to the Spino's superior display. If not, the first one to get a bite to the neck would win, and Spinosaurus would have a better chance due to its long, narrow head and neck that permitted more flexibility, on top of the arms that could defend from a Rex bite. I have determined that Spino would win 63-47, almost purely due to size. From equally sized individuals, Rex would definitely win. What do you think? Agree? Probably not, but let me know anyways!
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x_paden_x

MemberCompsognathusMay-17-2013 10:28 PM
here is my exact post comparing rex to spino and weighing the odds of them meeting in combat "(height is measured in the biggest skeletons found) T rex vs Spinosaurus height 40 feet 50 feet length - 40 feet - 60 feet speed - 17.9 mph - 12 mph weapons primary large jaws and teeth - large hand claws for powerful neck muscle - slashing and ripping secondary for ripping. and - weak small jaws third - powerful leg muscles - leg muscles for kicking - for kicking feet claws- diet - scavenger/hunter - fisher - diet consisting of --- eats a lot of fish and - other dinos big or small --- the ocasional dino weight---- 7 tons 21 tons name definition - tyrant lizard -- spiny lizard location -- north america -- south america,africa,some of asia family -- Tyrannosauroidea -- Spinosauria now i shall write a story about the fight In a clearing in the jungles of isla nublar a t rex and a spino confront each other. The spino makes a long hissing noise as it circles around with the rex, the rex lets out an ear splitting roar and charges the spino. The rex comes and head butts the spino. The spino caught off guard is flung for a few meters landing at the end of the clearing it pulls itslef up and lets out a roar. The two charge at each other the spino biting with its small useless jaws at the rexs neck and trying to use its claws to scratch the rex. The rex fends it off and bites the spinos neck, the spino lets out a roar of pain and scratches the rex with its claws, both have drawn blood. The rex limps to the side but the spino kicks the rex and the rex flops to the ground the spino charges the rex but the rex kicks it back. The spino is flung head over heels landing on its back crushing its sail into its spine the spino doesn't give up though. He lets out another roar and takes a big slash at the rex scratching its face horribly the rex stands back blinded for a few seconds giving the spino enough time to attack again. The rex can smell it with its impaired vision and charges as its vision comes back into play.It charges the spino right where its neck ends off at the belly winding the giant spino the spino flops over onto its side still breathing... the rex comes down for the kill but the spino bites its neck. Instead with the spinos frail jaw the rex has it easy with shaking it off with its giant neck muscles. Flinging the heavy animal into the air. The spino lands on its side near death as the rex comes in for the final kill it bends down and rips the spinos neck to shreds. With its neck tearing off the head the spinos body spasms and then flops over dead... The rex lets out a triumphant roar which can be hear throughout the island explanation: with the animals chances of ever meeting in real life impossible (there was a 25,000 million time difference in between them) the spino was built for fishing not fighting although it would take down a wounded or sick animal a few times it wasn't build for fighting although its claws were very very affective in the fight having slashed the rex in many places and blinding him the spino was a close match to the rex... the rex had a very strong neck muscle meant for ripping the animal with the side to strong side movement, the rexs head was built to take hits which is why he rammed the spino using its teeth to grip onto the animal it used its neck to shake usually breaking the animals back... now before you go all rage on this discussion hear me out this was from the biggest specimens of them found (yes i did take into account the bombed one and made up a height for it) all this info is taken from palaeontology sites and stuff yes this battle was between sue (rex) and bombie (the bombed spino)" these facts be true, deny it or not, the answer is rex.

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Makaveli7

MemberCompsognathusMay-17-2013 10:50 PM
Don't worry, I won't "go all rage" :). Actually, your post was the one that inspired mine. And while I respect your opinion, I do disagree. Thanks for replying!
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Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexMay-17-2013 11:22 PM
You do have a good point. I'm glad your not going to rage when someone has a different opinion than yours. I personally doubt that Spino weighed more than 10 tons. It did likely have powerful arms to drag up some big fish (I bet Spinosaurus Rex is going to say how Spino didn't eat only fish or much fish). It was up to 60 feet long, but it was lightly built. It's long jaws may have been a slight disadvantage. I agree with how you said most Dino-battles didn't get to the fighting, and how Spino would intimidate most creatures. Spino was not really built for combat (weak jaws for large predator, conical teeth, delicate sail, watch S-Rex say how superior Spino was in combat). T-Rex also had millions of years of evolution over Spino.

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Makaveli7

MemberCompsognathusMay-18-2013 1:19 AM
The intimidation was probably Spino's go to tactic. I like that you pointed out the millions of years of evolution! I do think that while Spino wasn't built for combat, it wasn't a pushover. Certainly capable of at least defending itself.
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Philosiraptor

MemberCompsognathusMay-18-2013 2:07 AM
I also heard that Spino weighs more than 20 tons when full grown. WTF? Maybe it's because when it got longer, everything also got wider and taller. I would have thought like 10 or 11!!! We'll (probably) never know for sure though...

Makaveli7

MemberCompsognathusMay-18-2013 2:12 AM
Yeah me too. I don't know how accurate that is, but as you said, we may never know.
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Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexMay-18-2013 6:56 AM
I really doubt that Spino would go much past 12 tons . I know Spino would be capable of defending itself, but it was more the intimidation that would be Spino's best defense.

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x_paden_x

MemberCompsognathusMay-18-2013 9:35 AM
in my opinion it is slightly exaggerated *in mine spino grows to 21 tons* but even with bone reconstruction and muscle construction "we will never know the command nedry entered" nedry being spinosaurus... also whats happened to our dear hater mr happy havent seen him in a while.... :)

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Makaveli7

MemberCompsognathusMay-18-2013 10:03 PM
Yeah you're right it the studies are probably slightly exaggerated, but oh well. New post coming soon.
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Spinosaurus Rex

MemberCompsognathusMay-23-2013 5:00 PM
i just love how you make fun of the truth mr happy, and also how you said when i state the more so likely "truth" of how this fight would be is biased, when you make up info and use long outdated info to make your favorite dinosaur seem like it would win. Spinosaurus is my favorite dinosaur, but that isnt why i say it would win, i look at facts and look up more and more NEW information about spinosaurus every day while comparing it to the info i have found about trex which is also not outdated, and PLEASE stop saying spino was lighter that trex or just lightly built in person, nobody freakin knows. I would really love for scientists to bring back a full grown trex and full grown spinosaurs to show how the real fight would go down and so i could just watch you trex fans get bitch slapped in the face by the truth

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MemberCompsognathusMay-27-2013 8:40 PM
Even at 10 to12 tons the spino was nearly twice the weight of a fully grown trex! The spino also lived along side a another predator, carcharadontosaurus which was much larger than your average trex! It's believed that the spino weighed at least 15 tons and eat not just fish but herbivores too so I have no doubt the spino would destroy a trex!

x_paden_x

MemberCompsognathusMay-27-2013 10:28 PM
heavy=slow light=fast ww2 proved this with tanks and planes but i believe it was proved with dinosaurs too, meaning that rex was more agile and could strike more blows on spino

Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way

The forgotten king

MemberCompsognathusAug-17-2013 8:33 PM
Yay another spinosaurus lover!!!
welcome to the new age
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