Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusOct-07-2014 1:34 PMSo we all know about the new Spinosaurus reconstruction. In other forums, I've seen people say it's impossible because it couldn't pronate it's hands or it would dull it's claws which were clearly important for Spinosaurus. I thought of a solution for it. There's a good chance I'm not the only one that thought of this, but I figured I'd post it anyways. Spinosaurus could walk on it's knuckles, like a sloth, gorilla, or chimp. This would keep it's claws safe and it wouldn't have to pronate it's hands(impossible to do). I agree with the new reconstructions and I think this goes right in line with it. In my opinion, this is how Spinosaurus moved.
Tyrant king
MemberCompsognathusOct-07-2014 1:45 PMI'm not too sure if SPINOSAURUS had that the right muscles and bones to allow knuckle walking. Gorillas don't have claws so they don't cound as a good comparison. Sloths are better since they that've claws but this is a mammal and that is a reptile. Sloths don't use their claws like a SPINOSAURUS.
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusOct-07-2014 1:50 PMSpinosaurus had very strong arms and hands, so I don't see why it couldn't walk like that. As far as the gorilla comparison goes, sure they don't have claws, but the general position could be the same. And dinosaurs have many things in common with mammals(upright walking positions, warm blood, etc). Why couldn't this be a similarity too?
Tyrant king
MemberCompsognathusOct-07-2014 1:53 PMI guess so. And I was not shouting SPINOSAURUS it just autocorrects that way.
Sci-Fi King25
MemberAllosaurusOct-07-2014 2:18 PMWell, I've nver thought of it that way...
Personally, I think Spinosaurus could switch from bipedal to quadrupedal when it wanted, but it would've probably been more comfortable walking on four legs. Apes can also move on two legs, but they usually don't. Spinosaurus would've probably been like this.
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-07-2014 2:52 PMI agree with what's been stated. No doubt it could be a biped when it felt like it, but it most likely took a quadrupedal stance for the most part.
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indiana jones
MemberCompsognathusOct-07-2014 4:39 PMscifie king i realy like what you said ubove this comment. i actualy didnt think of that.
"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusOct-07-2014 6:58 PMNature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
Gojira2K
MemberCompsognathusOct-07-2014 8:38 PMI agree with you. Also National Geographic agrees with you, here is a video they posted. Here is the link in case the video doesn't show.
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Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 8:42 AMREX FAN 684 - I agree whole-heartedly with the assessment you've brought forward. Spinosaurus, in my opinion, has benefited immensely fom this revision; it's a much more insteresting and fantastic animal now that it's been given a unique niche!
As for those whom state that Spinosaurus couldn't possibly have been a functioning quadruped for fear of blunting its claws, ask them this: how did other massive quadrupeds of the past walk about and not blunt their claws? It's patently simple: the very act of walking about sharpened their claws and kept them from growing too long - much in the same way that big cats scratch upon trees and rocks to keep their talons in check. We can even look to the giant monitor lizards of today for evidence that claws don't blunt under constant stress - they might crack and wear-down, but they continuously grow. Dulled claws, indeed! What nonsense. Sounds to me as though some individuals simply can't let go of their preconceptions that had Spinosaurus running about like some giant monster and eating other theropods that were 30+ ft in length (I'll point to Monsters Resurrected for this misconception).
Regardless, thank you ever so much for sharing this theory with us! :)
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 12:36 PMSure thing SR and I appreciate everyone's comments. I emailed paleontologist Peter Larson about this theory too. He said and I quote...
"Nice hypothesis!"
That must be a good thing, haha
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 1:37 PMREX FAN 684 - WOW! How very neat! That definately counts for quite a bit in my book! Keep up the excellent work! :)
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 1:40 PMThank you SR :D
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 1:47 PMREX FAN 684 - You're most welcome, sweetie! You definately earned it! :)
indiana jones
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 2:12 PMYAAAAAAAY!thank you rexy for showing me the truth...of the world.
"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 2:42 PMNo problem Indy :)
Spinosaurus Rex
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 2:49 PMSR, your statement was the quite the insult as i may point out. And i accept the possibility of this, but there is no inevitability to this yet, so am i going to accept its fact? Hell... NO.
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 2:51 PMLittle rude/aggressive there S-Rex. Mind toning it down a bit?
Spinosaurus Rex
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 2:57 PMAggressive... rude... two words that absolutely do not describe my personality and mood, im being straight forward, there's a difference.
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 3:02 PMThere's another way to do that...
You could say...
"It's possible, but I'll wait for further evidence."
Comes out a little nicer sounding don't ya think?
Spinosaurus Rex
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 3:04 PMMy overall tone was due to SR's comment, you didnt think i was going to be all rainbows and butterflies, did ya?
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 3:34 PMWell, I can see this has ready been resolved, but just going to point this simple little fact out.
Dinosaurs have been dead for 65 million years. There is very little we know that can actually be proven to be 100% fact.
That said, you did come across as a tad aggressive there, and believe me, Something Real is the last person here who would intentionally insult someone.
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indiana jones
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 5:20 PMSOOMMETHING REEEEEEEAAAALLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!
"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom
indiana jones
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 5:21 PMwould be that im working on the next episode.
"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 6:18 PMSPINOSAURUS REX - It's obvious that my statement has had a negative effect with regards to your personal interests. For that, you have my most sincere apologies. My remark was meant to be a laughable pass at the overly monster-ized version of the Spinosaurus presented in Monsters Resurrected - not a critical jab at you or anyone else with a fondness for particular extinct life-forms.
   That being said, you've presented yourself in a manner that suggests extreme agitation, something which I prefer to avoid at most costs. We're all capable of polite and even-handed conversation. I implore you to utilize that mode of conversation rather than come out of your corner swinging without provocation. Life is much too precious a thing to waste on petty anger. We must all work to ameleorate our stance at times, and I am no exception to that rule. Misunderstandings and spats will arise, yet it is up to us to determine how they will progress. For my part, I hope such instances pass and are left as by-gones.
   As a final aside, it's obvious that you much prefer the more bipedal iteration of the Spinosaurus rather than the one paleontologists have begun to discover. Is this due to the manner in which it hunts? Or do you prefer the physiology due to its viability as a super-predator? :)
indiana jones
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 6:26 PMgood comeback something real.
"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 7:00 PMINDIANA JONES - I appreciate your support, I really do; but my statement was not meant as a comeback. I want to understand SPINOSAURUS REX's point of view so that I can better see the persepective from which he/she stands. If I angered him/her, that is the last thing I wanted to do. I much prefer serenity to conflict - it's much more agreeable. Of course, aggression has its value as well, but only to a certain degree. If we can not settle a difference with diplomacy that functions in the absense of violence and inflamatory language, then we've failed on a fundamental level. I refuse to allow a conversation to degrade in such a fashion. That being said, I also refuse to have words placed in my mouth by individuals interested in conflict for its own sake. It's a tenuous and unfortunate situation - one which I greatly abhor.
Regardless, I greatly appreciate your confidence in me. It means more than i can place into words. :)
indiana jones
MemberCompsognathusOct-08-2014 7:35 PMi was kidding around knowing YOU something real! your a good person, stay gold.
"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 7:49 PMINDIANA JONES - Hahaha! Anything for you, sweetie! ;)
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-08-2014 8:36 PMSPINOSAURUS REX - After having taken a look back at multiple other posts regarding the revision to Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus' physiology, I've come to notice a trend in the manner by which you choose to address the topic. It seems as though you've a proclivity for reacting in a rather standoffish and aggressive manner - as if you feel the need to defend a standpoint or take personal offense when others suggest something about the theropod you so enjoy. What an interesting manner of reaction. This suggests to me that you hold this animal in extremely high regard and have, as a result, developed strong emotional ties to it. Is there a reason for such a powerful draw to this animal? I only posit this question because, from my observations, you seem extraordinarily opposed to the prospect of a change in Spinosaurus' physical scheme. May I ask what is so very wrong with the new revision? I believe it makes the animal that much more amazing and terrifying - much like an ancient sea serpent or dragon! Naturally, your opinion in the manner is just as important as everyone else's. However, it would seem as if you are generally unwilling to accept the opinions of others when it comes to the physiological alteration Spinosaurus has undergone. Are you privy to information the rest of us have not yet viewed? If so, I ask that you please present it so that we can amend our points of view; the last thing we want is to base our statements upon flawed supposition and conjecture. :)
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusOct-10-2014 8:38 PMof course the spinosaurus fan comes under attack for what he says.
S-rex has had"issues" with the way others present information regarding spinosaurus, He's only "agitated" because he has been provoked time and time again by other users. The newrevision has provided fodder, if you will, for some to provoke the aggression of other users. I've noticed it multpiple times, and not only one person is at fault. Multiple are. There's absolutely no need to target one individual.
The statements made by some users in direct response to others views is one of a negative nature, and it most certainly isn't ok.
For the record, Spinosaurus was not 4 tons in weight.Something i've noticed one or two particular people are clearly intent on pursuing without any tangible evidence; other then the new finds which doesn't constitute a...weight loss program for the giant theropod, this kind of crap needs to end. Point. Blank. Period. Provocation of other members is not okay. and some seem to use their...status in continuing in this behavior. I for one, will not sit idly by while it occurs. Enough is enough. Knock it off.
~Carno out.
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.