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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 9:29 AMHaven't really been active, had to deal with some things. I'll work on the fights i owe to this and the Godzilla forum tonights, probably..
So anyways, let's begin.
Daspletosaurus
Daspletosaurusis a genus of tyrannosaurid that lived in western North America between 77 and 74 million years ago, during the Late Cretaceous Period. Fossils of the only named species (D. torosus) were found in Alberta, although other possible species from Alberta and Montana await description. Including these undescribed species makes Daspletosaurus the most species-rich genus of tyrannosaur.Daspletosaurus is closely related to the much larger and more recent Tyrannosaurus. Like most known tyrannosaurids, it was a multi-tonnebipedal predator equipped with dozens of large, sharp teeth. Daspletosaurus had the small forelimbs typical of tyrannosaurids, although they were proportionately longer than in other genera. While very large by the standard of modern predators, Daspletosaurus was not the largest tyrannosaurid. Adults could reach a length of 8–9 meters (26–30 ft) from snout to tail. Mass estimates have centered around 2.5 tonnes(2.75 short tons)
Therizinosaurus
Therizinosaurus is agenus of very large theropod dinosaurs.Therizinosaurus comprises the single species (T. cheloniformis), which lived in the late CretaceousPeriod (late Campanian-early Maastrichtianstages, around 70 million years ago), and was one of the last and largest representatives of its unique group, the Therizinosauria. Fossils of this species were first discovered in Mongolia and were originally thought to belong to a turtle-like reptile (hence the species name, T. cheloniformis– "turtle-formed"). It is known only from a few bones, including gigantic hand claws, from which it gets its name. Though the fossil remains of Therizinosaurus are incomplete, inferences can be made about their physical characteristics based on related therizinosaurids. Like other members of their family, Therizinosaurus probably had small skulls atop long necks, with bipedal gaits and heavy, deep, broad bodies (as evidenced by the wide pelvis of other therizinosaurids). Their forelimbs may have reached lengths of up to 2.5 metres (8 feet) or even 3.5 metres (11 feet) in the largest known specimen. In 2010 Gregory S. Paul estimated the maximum size of Therizinosaurus at 10 metres (33 ft) in length and five tonnes in weight
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 6:36 PMWhy cpuldnt daspletosaurus rear up then bite the head or neck.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 6:37 PMI also think Daspletosaurus is taller than you give it credit for...
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 6:38 PMZhuchengtyrannus(pre-dated it about a million years or so, but still) and Tarbosaurus were larger then Daspletosaurus, hence the likelyhood of them killing an animal the size of Therizinosaurus go up, not substantially, but still.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 6:46 PMDas had a head height of 8-11 feet.(nine being roughly the average)
Therizinosaurus had a head height of 13-16 feet, you tell me how it's going to get that neck. Or how Daspletosaurus is even going to get close enough to deal out serious injuries?
This is a face to face confrontation, not ambush. Though that's the only way i'd say das would be able to kill it
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 6:54 PMThe prowess of 'Rearing up' in Tyrannosaurs seems a bit...understudied.
But, for a decently sized tyrannosaur such as das to 'rear up' would cause its center of gravity to shift backwards, due to the relatively long tail. It puts the animal in an unstable and vunerable position, which i do not believe it would enjoy being in.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 6:56 PMBut also, mentioning Therizinosaurus's height advantage, DRAMATIC advantage at that, Das would probably have to jump a good 6 feet in the air to even get a chance of biting its neck, but I doubt a Das would be able to even get a 3 foot jump, that and also would have to get through those big arms. So definately, i lean a fair amount towards Therizinosaurus.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 6:57 PMIt's only for a few seconds to bite the head off the theiriseniosaurus.
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-01-2014 7:01 PMEveryone has different thoughts in the matter. Even given the same information, people will view it differently. Nothing's going to change that.
Anyway, if Therizinosaurus did indeed have a 14 foot reach, it would be a heck of a weapon, but it would take a minute to get ready for a second slash after one. Anyone ever swing a piece of pipe about eight feet long? With a weight do ten pounds, those things get a heck of a velocity going on the end. But, once it's going, it doesn't stop easy. And once it's stopped, it doesn't start easy. Same would most likely be the problem with Therizinosaurus swinging it's arms around.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:03 PMIts a lot thicker towards the base, and i doubt that Das would be able to get its mouth around any spot that could cause real damage.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-01-2014 7:04 PMEven if it did only hit the base, it would be able to cause some damage. Perhaps only minor, but damage nonetheless.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:05 PM@mr. happy yes, that's true. But that eight foot pipe isn't attached to your arm, and you don't use it in every day life, but the arms of Therizinosaurus were just that, and in all likely hood it could swing them around with a fair amount of ease
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-01-2014 7:07 PMNo doubt about it, but perhaps at higher velocities it would have some difficulty stopping at the very least.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:07 PMBut Happy, those are its arms packed with much more muscle than what me and you have when swinging a pipe that long, thats a bite of a poor arguement because this is about the leverage along with the strength, not the relationship between humans being able to do as much as a dinosaur in a single swipe.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-01-2014 7:10 PMIt was an example. I didn't say a good one, just an example. Not the pipe example for difficulty, but not as easy as, say, swinging a shouldered rifle that's about four feet in total length (weight around seven or so pounds).
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:11 PMThe therizenosaurs would have no problem swinging its arms since it was connected to its body. And packed with Muscle.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:13 PMIt would as easy as swinging a shoulders rifle do to reasons I already stated
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:15 PMBut as a Therizinosaurus, its arm... is just its arm ;)
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:15 PMMr.H the problem wth swinging a pipe or riffle is its not proportional. But, a similar point it...
ever see some body in a boxing match throw a wind mail punch or more commonly known as a haymaker. No. The reason for this being while it is a very powerful punch it is easy to counter. If the Therizinosaurus missed it would most likely lose its balence due to the momentum. Leaving it vulnerable.
But, most of the time the hit would probably go home, as Daspletosaurus aren't fast or agile animals.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-01-2014 7:17 PMI know. Still though. I don't care who you are, I don't care what you are, I don't care how big and strong you are, 14 feet of anything isn't going to effortlessly be swung around.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:19 PMIf you are 40 feet long 16 feet tall and a couple tons. It won't be as hard as you think.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-01-2014 7:20 PMAnd it won't be as easy as you think.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:21 PMI'm sure it would be easy as i think because it was made to withstand that kind off stress on his arm.
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MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2014 7:23 PMThe Biomechanics of Therizinosaurs haven't really been studied, but basic laws of physics show us that once an object is in motion, it stends to stay in motion. But, As HHP pointed out, a Therizinosaurus probably isn't going to swing unless it's certain it will hit its target. Something like that, colliding with an animal half its size, is going to do some considerably damage, if not kill the animal outright. Something some peopld don't seem to grrasp very well
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-01-2014 7:23 PMNever mind. I give up. You win.
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