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Most people here don't think that it's stupid, just that it would be uncommon. Now as for your points, I have to say that some of them are flawed.

1. Spinosaurus did indeed have a "weak" jaw. It was very strong, but compared to something like a Tyrannosaurus it was puny and it probably wouldn't be strong enough to cause nearly enough damage to kill a T.rex.

2. Since we haven't found it's arms yet we can't know how long they were., but they were probably around that size.

3. How can something be larger and more agile? I personally think that Spinosaurus was a bit lighter than Tyrannosaurus. Higher and longer, but not as robust and therefore not as heavy which means not as powerful. The Rex would probably have the advantage when it comes to agility, because it was shorter and (imo) heavier, it would've been able to turn faster and it had massive legs. Spinosaurus on the other hand was very long and had a gigantic sail which would hinder him even more than his unusual length.

4. Spinosaurus probably didn't hunt like that. It would use it's long snout to grab a fish and bring it on land, then it would use it's arms to gut it. When faced with terrestrial prey it would probably hold onto it with it's jaws (and the long teeth which were perfect for gripping) and then just claw the living hell out of it. It wouldn't be able to snap it's neck, like shown in JP, because it couldn't move it's wrist like that (for that matter, nothing except for humans and some primates can do that).

I don't understand why people on this thread think the idea of Spino winning is stupid. The fight could have gone either way. Sure Tyrannosaurus had an imppresive bite force, but it's not like Spino has a weak jaw. Not to mention unlike T.Rex's arms, Spino's was no joke. 7 feet long with 3 foot claws at each end. It was larger as well, and far more agile which compensated for it's lighter skeletal structure. There's a theory among Paleontologists that Spinosaurs typically hunted by hooking onto its preys neck and then using its arms to break it (which is what we saw in JP3). Like I said earlier, the fight can go either way. In JP3's case, it shoulda went to the T.Rex. It may be smaller, but it's built like a tank for crying out. At the end of the day, it's the first bite that counts, as well as other factors like the environment for instance.

Yeah, I only signed up to be able to comment on Jurassic World news and interact with other fans here. I’m still getting used to this site.

As for this thread, it was the title that caught my attention with the weird heading “My theories may differ from yours, if you have a problem with that, don’t read this...” I thought that was odd, but ascribed it to the common misuse of the word theory. He probably meant hypothesis (I thought to myself).

In Science a theory is the highest form of knowing. They are the best explanation. By definition there can be no two opposing theories for one natural phenomenon (the theory of evolution, the theory of gravity, the germ theory of disease etc.). He does not have a theory! What he should have said was hypothesis. You can have multiple competing/opposing hypotheses, but eventually only one will explain your observations accurately.

Overall, it was a very weird warning. If you disagree with something, you don’t ignore it – you question it. If someone makes a claim, it’s up to them to defend it, not advise potential dissenters to move along and ignore it. It struck me as a very odd thing to say. Then I read on and it all made sense when the guy revealed that he was a creationist.

I would normally have just rolled my eyes and clicked away, but when I read his self-contradictory comment the irony was just too much...  

As for the Rex Vs. Spino debate, I’ve met my fair share of fanboys. The trick is to get them to define exactly what they are comparing. You must first state whether you are talking about the real Mesozoic animals (which lived on different continents and at different points in earth history), or the transgenics bred by InGen and set free on Isla Sorna. Otherwise you’re comparing apples and oranges. And you have to compare them on a trait by trait basis, then tally it all up and see who comes out on top...

I’ll leave it at that. But in my opinion, that is the best way to enter into this debate, and the only method by which you have half a chance of introducing logic to a die-hard fanboy...

@Phantom Raptor

Yeah, couldn't agree with you more.

Here's a few

Ceratosaurus:

Dilophosaurus:

Dimorphodon: (Not technically a dinosaur)

Apatosaurus:

Velociraptor:

(I'd totally ride this into battle)

So I guess this means we won’t be seeing the old waterfall helipad from the first movie? That sucks...

Great chapter. I hope Terrance saves Muldoon a make up for trying to eat him.

Good chapter I really hope both survive too

Wooow! Can't wait for the movie!

I figured that she was female because of Synca. An a often means that something is female. A few examples are Sara, Laura, Christina etc. In many languages a word is female if it ends on an a.

Oh sorry, didn't know, well it's too late now. Btw, nice fight.

Great chapter. I'm not sure which one I like more, Terrance or Muldoon, but if it has to be, then probably Terrance. I just hope that they both survive.

Now that you mention it, Synca sounds like one of those dual gender names like Jordan, Taylor and Jamie.

Nice job. I like the new characters.

Good chapter, but I always thought that Synca was a female 0_0.

Sorry to come across as a jerk there. Good points, and you're one if the first new guys who hasn't come here and started posting in Rex vs Spino. I know what you mean with the fanboys.

Good chapter, looking forward to the next. The new characters are fine.

I did do something constructive (in my opinion). I pointed out an awesomely ironic self-contradictory statement.

If person A doesn’t accept (despite over 150 years of compiled scientific evidence) the concept of deep geologic time and different dinosaurs living at different time periods, then person B telling him that Spinosaurus and Ouranosaurus actually lived millions of years apart should be absolutely meaningless to him – because person A believes that everything that has EVER evolved lived on the planet at the same exact time!

Things like Spinosaurus and wildebeest are actually almost as far apart (chronologically speaking) as Ouranosaurus is from Spinosaurus.

According to his logic; Spinosaurus lived with wildebeest and kangaroos, but not Ouranosaurus because according to the geological timescale (which he doesn’t accept) Ouranosaurus lived in the Early Cretaceous, but Spinosaurus lived in the Late Cretaceous! I’m sorry but that’s hilarious any way you cut it…

Pointing out someone’s hypocrisy does not make one an ass (quite the opposite actually).

Apologies for using the word ‘retarded’ (the intent was not to offend) but it was the only adjective that sprung to mind at the time… And I never directly insulted him, the adjective was applied to the weird timeline conjured by his mental gymnastics - not him as a person…

I actually agreed with most of his other observations about Spinosaurus (and I study these animals for a living), though I didn’t feel like commenting on the lack of evidence for webbed feet (as cool and/or probable as that might be), or some of his comments on the weight estimates of Spinosaurus.

I didn’t comment on all that because honestly what’s the point? This Spinosaurs Vs T-rex ‘debate’ has been raging for years and you’re never going to convince the die-hard fanboys of anything…

I really do hope this movie truly revives the interest in dinosaurs and the Jurassic Park Franchise.

Nice, looking forward.

Good point.

Great chapter, as always.

Nice. I've got the series on DVD. It is pretty decent as a whole series.

After I got it on DVD and watched it again, I realized it was better than I gave it credit for. Decent movie over all.

Nice. Haven't seen WWD in a while.

Well done. Liked the Carnotaurus part :)

I'm looking forward to posting them. Round 1's three way (Diplo vs Tarbo vs Oxalia) is pretty good if you ask me.

Very true. 

PS- I just remembered seeing that Nanotyrannus pic during the credits for Walking With Dinosaurs: The Movie, haha.

Eh, at least we have the daily posts and then a bonus post or two that way. Gives me something to do when I have nothing better to do.

Nice fight. 

As far as the bite force thing goes, minimally, T. rex had a bite force of about 6,800 psi. However, it wouldn't surprise me if they bit down with forces as high as 18,000-40,000 psi from time to time.

PS- This fight seems familiar. Where have I read this. Oh yeah, I wrote one, haha...

http://www.jurassicworld-movie.com/community/forums/topic/28589

Thanks.

And yeah, that seems about right, haha.

Nice, looking forward to the next.

Notice how most people post a chapter or a fight every couple days, and then I have it daily around the same time. I just noticed that.

Nice chapter. Pretty sure Terrance would scare the living daylights out of most people, haha.

Can't wait.

I believe what you said about the larger T. rex specimens Primal King. Until the info is actually published, I'll keep my average estimate for T. rex at 12-13 meters long and 8-9 tons with 14-15 meters long and 10-12 tons as the max. But I can't wait for this info to be officially published :)

I'll be awaiting the fights :)

Really looking forward to this. I'll definitely be reading it.