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You're improving, that's for sure. I agree with the winner.

Glad you guys all liked it overall :)

It sounds pretty cool, but I can't say for any real certainty if it's real or not.

I think it's legit

Ya I think it's a fraud.

I actually think it sounds great. It sounds like someones running away from a dinosaur in the beginning. I think it's the real deal

It doesn't sounc good till 1:20 but I think it's decent.

i think its fake too

Id say its fake, even if its real it dosen't sound too good

It would come down to the health and vulnerability of the spinosaur.

I wonder if they could take this thing down. Not sure what this species of tyrannosaur is but it looks like they have gone with feathers on an albertosaurus or something. This is really pushing the bird theory...but looks cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYh3ix_cVCk

Yes they could have, but they were desperate so they didn't have a plan.

It's probably not the actual theme.

nice

I saw this as a classic battle between lions and cape bufflo. It could have gone either way. If the lions had played this smart and let the trike bleed to death then meal for the pride.

Nice fight.

Nice fight! I was rooting for the Cymbospondlyus. I'm looking forward to the finale.

I'd say 50-50%.

i was to but i was to nervous to start it up.

it was called dinosaur fight debate.

I would say Torvo would win judging by all the facts Carno gave right here in this discussion. You know, I was considering starting my own debate series...

I think that to. but im sure megalosaurids do preety good agasinst other predators at parity.

At parity, Tyrannosaurs do pretty well against other theropods

I'd say 60-40 in favor of das, but that's at parity

what do you guys think about the fight if it was at parity? i say 50-50 if not 51-49 in torvos favor.

I see. Yeah, Das is screwed. 65-35 Torvo. It was simply too much weight for Das to take on. 

i didnt even know that, thanks carno now i think torvo quite easily wins due to size and strength adantage. 70-300 favor of torvo.

visual refrences are not reliable, and it could rear up a bit and reak havoc on das's face. before you say it couldnt rear up. it could though it wouldnt like it. but it is for a short period of time. and torvo's jaws would deal an equal amount of damage.

Torvo has the weight advantage here, really.

Here's a neat comparison i just found of the two..

Torvo has the size advantage(height and weight) while the Tyrannosaur has a lethal set of jaws. But, Torvo likely had jaws that high jaw mechanic efficiency, close to that of the tyrannosaurs in fact. Dr. Sakamoto's papers revealed that megalosauroids may have a greater mechanical advantage in their skulls than tyrannosaurids, which could mean that Torvosaurus' bite could have surpassed Tyrannosaurus' bite. That would be the fabled 12 meter portuguesespecimen though, and not T.Tanneri or T. Gurneyi. We don't really have a base for megalosaur bite force, but i'd say it would be a correspondingly large amount pound for pound as in the Tyrannosaurs.

~8 meter T. Tanneri would have  bite force around 2.5-3 tons

~ 10 meter T. Gurneyi would have a bite force of 3 - 5 tons

Daspletosaurus Torusus, scaling down from Tyrannosaurus(in this case i'm using a 9 meter Das) would have a bite force of Approximately 3 tons

Both predators lived with equally sized contemporary theropods, but the bigger and more massive Torvo should take this 65-35

Yeah, I doubt its arms would have been much help. Refer to the image in post. Even if Torvo was biting Das, the arms were too short to have been of any use. 

yes and when these to beast duke it out the torvo will utilize his hugley powerful arms.

I say 55-45 Das. They were similar in size, Das was most likely a tad more robust (Tyrannosaurs were fairly heavily built compared to other carnivores), Torvo may have been more agile, but a slight agility advantage probably won't matter when your opponent is about the same size as you, and it would have to be real up close and personal for Torvo to use it's arms.

i totaly agree. its simply just to much claws and jaws coming at it. and the hatchet bites would be truly devastating and painful.and i never said this was an average sized spino....

6 is overkill.

6 x 4.5 yields a combined mass of 27 tons. That's double the weight of what's considered an 'average' spinosaurus.

Mass plays a large role in these kind of conflicts, after all.

If they're desperate as TK stated, they won't relent on their attack..Now, if they loose one or two, i see them as acting more cautiously over anything else.

The Yangchuanosaurus pack should take this with ease

i ssay torvosaurus wins since they are similar in size and robustticity. but the torvo has much more useabale arms. 55_45 in favor of torvo IMO. ith woukd be a good fight.

i stated that they are despreate.

I agree and at theses sizes the skin was still 3 to 5 inches thick

I think that given how armored a Triceratops is, it would easily defeat even a pride of lions. Lions usually go for the Juglar, and the frill prevents easy acess to that in a Triceratops, plus their hide was relatively tough. Too much so for a regular predator to bite into I belive.

Was kind of hoping for Elasmosaurus to win, but I recognize that it was outmatched here. A good fight overall though and I look forward to seeing how is next.

intelegence dosent play as big a role in a fight as you think. they fight by instinct,as do all animals even humans

Nice fight. I'm with Alphadino on this one. 

Alphadino, of course the pack would have to be desperate. If they weren't, they wouldn't even think about attacking, they'd just leave. That's how about any fight to the death starts when large and not large predators battle is because the not large predator is desperate. 

thnx.