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@ x_paden_x

Bearing in mind the conversation I just had with Chris Picard I will try to be nice to you, but I’m honestly finding it very difficult not to question your intelligence because the ideas being discussed here are not that complex and I’ve already explained it all in detail to you in my previous reply, yet here we are again... It’s like you’ve literally read NOTHING of the previous comments between Peter and myself, but still feel the need to blindly interject. Read it all again (actually read it this time, don’t just skim), and then by all means tell us what you think.

So, (despite running out of patience) let me see if I can explain this as politely and simply as possible.

“Thats what your basing your facts off of? Really?”

No, not really – because that’s not how things work. You don’t base facts off stuff, facts are facts. I’m presenting a hypothesis based on evidence which is derived from the facts;

The only facts we are considering are that this is an old boat – a model made at some point prior to 1989, and it has age damage – peeling paint.

From those facts we are toying with the POSSIBILITY that this ferry will feature in a flashback scene because;

1. The ferry is at least 26 years old now (though it still looks futuristic) and presumably Patel will equip the new park with brand new vehicles, just as Hammond spared no expense in the early 90’s. Back when Hammond was building the original park, this ferry would have been brand new, so it makes sense that it is something from the original park, as there are much more advanced boats available today for Patel to choose from – why would he choose an old boat for his new park?

2. Why would a new company with enough money to rescue InGen from bankruptcy and resurrect Jurassic Park from the ruins it was, suddenly become stingy about applying a new coat of paint to an old boat?! That doesn’t inspire confidence in the minds of any hesitant potential visitors.

“... And I like to look at all angles of a situation...”

I’m not getting that from reading your comments.

“But really? Your inferring, Correction, Guessing all of this.”

That’s what a hypothesis is.

“It wouldn't be from the original park, Because Patel Corp, Wants to shell out Millions on this park, Make it better then the old park...”

For the last bloody time; NO ONE is suggesting that it is a relic from the old park being re-used in the new one! I honestly don’t get how that is so hard for you to understand!

It will either be

1. A ferry that the Patel Corporation has purchased after taking over InGen and is currently using to transport visitors to a and from Isla Nublar.

Or

2). It will be something that features in the flashback scene (based on the age damage and the fact that it is at least 26 years old i.e; not a state of the art model ferry). 

So far the evidence suggests that it will possibly be the latter.

“Usually in a company take over, you remove all assets of the older company...”

Remind me never to hire you to run any of my companies. REALLY? You buy a dying company, paying hundreds of millions of dollars to settle its outstanding legal debts, and acquire all of its physical assets – and then you scrap it all?!?! NO, of course not. You sell off what you can, and you use anything that will still be useful in making you more money.

“Even if it was unused, about to be shipped to Nublar before the incident, You still wouldn't use it in a new park, Almost Twenty years later...” 

And for the ZILLIONTH TIME; no one is suggesting that! Read option 1 and option 2 again.

(By the way; I’ve presented plenty of good reasons why a company would actually re-use assets, you have yet to give me one good reason why one would not).

“The Peeling, Shows that it's been put through its trials, A proven sailing ship.”

The peeling shows that it is old and neglected, an abandoned boat. Two can play at that game...

Or seeing how a fair amount of this is CGI, Thats the actual boat itself, that is just being used, But will be touched up on the actual film, Thanks to our "Magical" Friends at ILM.

Why would Universal spend hundreds of dollars to pay a crew of digital effects artists to cover up some peeling paint on a prop (you’d think they have bigger things to worry about, like animating the CGI dinosaurs), when they could simply buy a bucket of white paint for $25 and have some extra spend 1 hour sanding and re-painting that part of the ferry?!  

Since you are unaware, ILM will not be working on Jurassic World any more since Universal studios has acquired Legendary Pictures.

(Funny that, how Universal acquired Legendary and then put them to work rather than scrapping them...)

If it was a flashback scene... Why would it bear the crest of the new park?

Ok, now I know you didn’t read or (evidently) understand any of the previous comments between Peter and myself, because I answered this EXACT same question and he agreed that my answer was at least plausible.

Think back to the first movie. The insignia on the doors of the gas powered jeeps are the JP logo with a red background. The insignia on the doors of the ford explorers is the Jurassic Park rex in a circle with a yellow background. There’s no reason that an InGen boat would not have the same insignia (which it does) only with a blue background (as it thematically relates to water). Other than the skeleton being in silver, the logo is no different. It makes sense for it to be in silver on a blue background otherwise it wouldn’t show up (black stands out easily enough on a red or yellow background, not so much on a blue background).

You need to take your own advice, and calm down.

All we are doing is assessing the evidence at hand and suggesting possible explanations. Photos could surface tomorrow proving this all wrong (which incidentally would also prove you wrong since it would mean that Patel has bought a 26 year old ferry to transport visitors to and from Nublar with).

I see what you mean Jeeza, but here's a few pics I found in the croc/gators favor...

Interesting. Titanosaurs were pretty bulky animals, so I'd imagine a 130 ft species would weigh a good 120-150 tons.

Aswell...

If it was a flashback scene... Why would it bear the crest of the new park?

Assuming

Thats what your basing your facts off of? Really? Now, I'm a fair person, And I like to look at all angles of a situation... But really? Your inferring, Correction, Guessing all of this.

It wouldn't be from the original park, Because Patel Corp, Wants to shell out Millions on this park, Make it better then the old park...

Usually in a company take over, you remove all assets of the older company... Including this one. Even if it was unused, about to be shipped to Nublar before the incident, You still wouldn't use it in a new park, Almost Twenty years later... 

The Peeling, Shows that it's been put through its trials, A proven sailing ship.

Or seeing how a fair amount of this is CGI, Thats the actual boat itself, that is just being used, But will be touched up on the actual film, Thanks to our "Magical" Friends at ILM.

Could be better... Not just a JP Trailer with Godzilla trailer overlay, Still a nice clip none the less. 

Nice find.

That was pretty cool.

Speaking of Godzilla 2014, going to be seeing it tomorrow.

I always thought the largest predators would be in the Jurassic since giant herbivores were abundant enough for predators to grow to thier size.

Mr. Happy9097 shoot away with all of your requests. I'll be happy to take them.

I don't see why the Ferry cannot be part of the new corporation - if we assume that the Patel corporation has been running Jurassic World for at least a decade. The Ferry could be 5 to 10 years old and been happily shifting tourists to the site on a daily basis for all that time, hence it has peeling paint and a naturally weathered look.

Great post. I only dip into this site once every week or so so all news is new to me. Not everyone is hanging on counting the seconds between updates.

@Carnosaur, I agree. It is only a matter of time before scientists discover an even larger predator!

That's alright. I'm just glad you chose my idea.

Well, depending on what dinosaur you want to engineer, I would find the closest living animal to it ( i,e, ostrich, emu, maybe chicken.) I would take it's egg and just after it was laded and genetically modify it from there giving it teeth, claws, scales, and a different body structure to match the species you want to create. You would probably have to do this a couple of times to get it right, but you soon would a dinosaur, or something resembling it. This could actually happen soon. It was on documentary I watched awhile back, but I can't think of the name right now. If you want to watch it, you can find it on Netflix. It's comes with other documentaries that are also interesting.

with these giant herbivores, comes those who predate on them. Maybe a enormous theropod is waiting to be uncovered nearby...interesting stuff and great find. Hopefully it's scientifically described soon

Of course Muldoon has a natural badasss-ness to him. But you take every grain of badassery and show it to us. You know what I'm talking about? It's like a good tea. It doesn't matter how good the tea is, if the one making the tea isn't good enough to take advantage of every last bit of flavour, you might as well just drink some regular, old tea.

Very interesting indeed. If we take Bruhatkyosaurus and Amphicoelias out of the competition because they were very fragmentary, then this new titanosaur takes the prize for largest known dinosaur.

Interesting. I've never heard about this dinosaur before.

Yes, yes... I know some of these words. Anyway, good chapter. I don't know a lot about guns, bur´t from what I've understood (and researched on the interwebz) those are some really awesome guns.

@Something Real: You have a twin sister?

Very neat.

Cool.

Nice. If you don't mind, I'd like to give you a few requests. Is that alright?

@x_paden_x

"The peeling doesn't nessiceraly mean its from Site A...”

 Please provide a good reason why not.

“Why would you reuse a peice of equipment from the original park?”

I thought it was blindingly obvious; Patel Corp. paid hundreds of millions of dollars to acquire InGen assets, ergo they may as well put them to good use and get their money’s worth out of it all (the number one goal of any decent corporation).

I had to get that one out of the way. But I digress; you need to read the previous comments again. You clearly don’t understand what Peter and I were talking about.

No one is suggesting that the boat is being used by the Patel Corporation for Jurassic World. Think about it. Why would a new company with enough money to rescue InGen from bankruptcy and resurrect Jurassic Park from the ruins it was, suddenly become stingy about applying a new coat of paint to an old boat?!

We are entertaining the idea that this boat might be part of the flashback scene as well – discovered where it was left, tied to a dock or run aground, having never been used for its intended purpose...

If I recall, They wouldn't in any way, want to resemble the old park, as it would bring trouble to the park...

Whether or not they want to resemble the old park makes no difference, by definition they are the same exact thing as the old park. The whole world knows what happened on Isla Nublar in 1993. A new manager, a new name and a slightly different logo won’t change the public’s perception. They’ll be promised safety upgrades and newer more reliable technology, and to the dozens of rich thrill seekers who can afford it that’ll do the trick. To the Patel Corporation (like any business) that’s all that matters, what anyone else thinks is irrelevant as long as they’re making money.

Got the pic

Yes, Its needed to play a role in your stay at the park...

Leading up to the attack however, you can do anything...

Jetskiing with mausasaurus anyone?

I'm a bit confused here. We're visitors to Jurassic World and have to survive an attack? The attack is required, right?

WEll, if the best genetic scientests and paleontologists got together, they could find the closest living relatives of the dinosaurs (i.e. Chickens, Ostriches, Crocodiles, etc.) and extract DNA from these creatures, and then crefully mix them together. Then, place the formula into an egg of the closest living relative of the dinosaur. Then, do this over and over again, slowly breed them, and soon, you got a dinosaur.

Nice. If I wasn't getting a Hatsan with a top folding stock, a Mossburg would be my second choice. They're cheap, they're customizable, and they come with some pretty cool accessories. The roadblocker comes with a muzzle brake that looks like something off a .50 cal, and the chainsaw comes with a cool grip. Just to list a few. 

M14? That's awesome, those things are so cool.

I've got a Remington 870, a 16 gauge that's pretty old, a little Winchester pump .22, and a Savage Arms MKII .22 bolt action.

Pictures?

I can Imagine, At our ranch, we only Grow hay, As to feed the animals, But some of my "Country Kid" Pals, Are already getting set up...

It's alright, You don't need to Compete in every Challange

That sounds interesting. Unfortunately, I MIGHT not be able to participate. Getting busy as hell around here.