Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 6:12 PMHello everybody! First discussion I haven’t made for a while. For all you newcomers here, I am a regular here but was gone for the past month on a trip, so you probably didn’t notice me. Soon I will have been here officially for a year. If you wish to know more about me, just PM me.
Now onto the discussion.
Today I will be talking about how the world of Jurassic Park would have been like if there was a 3rd book written by Michael Crichton. Now when I say the world of Jurassic Park I will be referring the BOOKS had set the world of Jurassic Park. So if you haven’t read the first two books and you do not want spoilers if you plan to read them, then STOP HERE AND TAKE HEED TO THE SPOILER WARNING.
Also, before I officially begin, for all of you people who wonder why there was not a 3rd book, it was due to that Michael Crichton passed away. I read Wikipedia and people went searching everywhere to see if he even had sticky notes lying around for a 3rd novel, but it was never to be. Even then the 3rd movie came out before he could make one, so he felt that it was just better off without one. A big salutation to a great man who spawned off an amazing franchise.
Also, remember, this is the realm of the books we are talking about.
First of all, I am going to narrow down characters who wouldn’t be able to appear in the 3rd novel.
John Hammond- Okay, for those of you who read the books know that this asshole died while cursing his grandchildren by damning them while slowly being eaten by Compies, so we won’t be seeing him.
Henry Wu- Okay this guy is the Asian doctor we see in the first movie in the white suit explain about the raptors to Ellie and Alan, and is going to be in Jurassic World, just saying this so you guys know who I am talking about. Well in the books he is viciously mauled by Velociraptor, because for some reason this bastard opens the door when the raptors near him, and they jump and grab him, and he dies.
Gennaro- Although he survived in the first book, he dies of dysentery, as stated in The Lost World. Basically he died of excessive diarrhea. Yeah, that was awkward to type.
Lewis Dodgson- We all remember that famous scene where Nedry yells “We got Dodgson everybody, we got Dodgson! See? Nobody cares!” Well in the books he is a psychotic douche, and he even attempts to murder Sarah Harding, who in the end turns back the favor. He ends up become a Happy Meal for the little Rexes.
Truly Adorable.
Eddie Carr- Unfortunately died by being eaten by raptors.
Other Charcters- Howard King, Baselton, Ed, Dennis Nedry, some other charcters that are not known to be dead.
Now we can officially start!
However, let us briefly review of what happened in each novel.
Jurassic Park
-Compies make it to mainland, reports of babies in small villages in the Philippines dying. Many sightings of small lizards is what the Compies were called.
-Alan Grant, Ian Malcolm, Ellie Sattler, Donald Gennaro are sent to the island for inspection.
-Two children Tom and Lex are called supposedly for a “distraction” from their parent’s divorce. It is later known that Hammond brought them so they could convince Gennaro to not shut down the park.
-Dennis screws everything up, park shuts down, T-Rex attacks, not also to mention Ian Malcolm helps them figure out there were actually dinosaurs breeding all along right under their noses, as expected of Ian
-People die, survivors escape by helicopter
-Isla Nublar is nuked, dinosaurs are thought to be dead
The Lost World
-Dinosaurs are described to have reached the mainland
-Richard Levine funds a project to research about strange animals being found on the island of Isla Sonar, he is expecting a Lost World, a reference to the novel The Lost World by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
-Drags along Thorne, Ian, 2 kids, and others along with him
-They find dinosaurs
-Dinosaurs be dinosaurs and when being a dinosaur, shit gets on cars, raptors jump on cages, dinosaurs be camouflaging, raptors be ramming through doors like Jack Nicholson, and people get eaten
-They escape, children survived but horribly traumatized most likely, especially for Arby
-Rest is unknown, which officially begins the discussion!
(I have said that about 3 times now, haven’t I?)
Now let us officially begin!!!!
So let’s just say the book takes place 5 years after The Lost World takes place. Dinosaurs could have already be on the verge of yet again becoming the dominant species, or maybe it could have turned into the world of How to Train Your Dragon, where everyone has their own pet dragon!!!
Just kidding, that wouldn’t happen. If you ever see a dinosaur, do not attempt to ride it. Unless you want to die.
Okay, so let’s see what would have happened to the companies. Well InGen, those assholes went bankrupt and got their laboratory was bought, so they went down.
With the rivaling company Biosyn, they could have done many things. They tried once by sending 3 men to capture some dinosaur eggs from the island, Dodgson, King, and some other guy. Of course by the end of The Lost World these assholes die, one gets eaten by an angry Rex, one has some raptors give him a back massage, and the other also gets eaten by the littleuns.
So here are many things that I believe would have most likely happened:
Some species of dinosaurs start to breed all over the world.
That’s right! Like I said, in The Lost World the dinosaurs already start to reach mainland.
As you remember, some of the dinosaurs like the Compies and the raptors reach Costa Rica.
So now we can assume that the raptors get smarter and take over the world and we can watch films like Rise of the Planet of the Raptors.
Okay, just kidding, they wouldn’t get THAT intelligent… I think. (We can only hope.)
Now where were we? Oh yes, well the raptors would most likely have spread to more areas, like Mexico!!! I believe that the raptors would spread left and right to both Mexico and South America.
The lower region of Mexico is a rainforest environment, as we can see here:
I believe that the raptors could survive off the Mexican Rainforests for a while, it has a good selection of prey for the raptors, compies, and other dinosaurs that make it to the island. The vegetation would suit well for the herbivores that happen to make it to the main land. Of course, there would be people living on the rainforest land, and they would be dead. Maybe they could kill some raptors but seeing how fast they flourished in the secret cave from Jurassic Park, they would be hard to completely kill off.
So we can assume that the raptors would of course go into deeper parts of Mexico and may even reach some of that American land… The compies certainly would, I believe, and they would become the most terrifying pest ever, second only to the cockroach… (Those mother*ckers always will be there won’t they? They survive everything…)
Of course likely this wouldn’t happen. Sure maybe some compies would be able to sneak into America, but raptors wouldn’t, even if they did make it across into America the military would surely take care of them. Might even kill people in the process but since when did that matter to the American military!? (Just a joke, no offence intended, if any.)
However, it do think the raptors would likely thrive in the lower region of Central America, due to the heavy rainforest regions. Raptors and other dinosaur that are able to make it to Costa Rica. Now, let’s analyze what would happen if the raptors, compies, etc. took a turn to the right into South America!
I don’t believe the raptors and dinosaurs would be able to live comfortably in the regions in the upper area of South America, mainly due to deforestation.
However, to the upper-right of Columbia is Venezuela, and I do believe the dinosaurs could live comfortably there.
In Ecuador, dinosaurs could live there since there are rainforests there.
Well, just found this image right now in Google Images, so I could have saved time if I had found this image EARLIER, but now we can see that the dinosaur would be able to live in a lot of regions in upper South America. Imagine the Brazilians and their faces when they are playing Futbol (Soccer) and then raptors jump on the field and begin to eat the players… They would become the best team known to man… After all, they have the qualities of a team, hunting coordination, they work together, and they would make a good team. Of course, they would obviously need a tougher referee.
Okay, back to the discussion. Okay, now that we have gotten that done, and by that I mean discussing the status of the dinosaurs, let’s move on to what the 3rd book may have been about.
Let’s officially start this discussion!
Oh yeah, one thing came about my mind that I forgot, the dinosaurs were made so that they could only eat off lysine-rich food, well in this thing let’s just say that they have adapted off that trait.
Wait wasn’t it built into their genetic code?
Well… Life finds a way…
But…
Shut up!
Geez just trying to help…
Sorry, talking to myself. Okay, now let’s officially start the discussion!
Got a sense of déjà vu there… Whatever.
Okay, Let’s officially-
You get what I mean.
Now many things could have happened… Characters could have passed away, wars could have broken out, the world may never know.
Now let me see what I personally think Jurassic Park lll could have been about.
Okay, so some douchebags working for Biosyn were sent to fetch some dinos, and they died, as stated earlier. Who knows, knowing humans, Biosyn may have sent more people to fetch some dinosaurs again, because Logix. After all, one of themes of Michael Crichton’s books is human stupidity.
And sometimes human literally never learn.
So let’s just say these assholes being assholes sent more people to fetch some Rexes, raptors, Sauropods, etc. I assume that eventually they do succeed with numerous losses of the idiots who work for this company, so let’s just say they finally have some of them dinosaurs. They celebrate, and they make plans on how to make money off these things. They try to open up a park.
Now let’s say some of the old JP characters come back to tell Biosyn of why that is a bad idea. Here let’s put it like this:
This is a very bad idea.
No it isn’t, we can be rich, John Hammond’s dream will finally come true!!!
You’re an idiot. Have you not seen what these things have done to people?!
Well you can’t stop me!!!
Fine, but life will find a way!
*Stuff happens
*Some asshole messes everything up, everyone is now in danger
*People on the “bad” side get eaten by dinosaurs
*Raptor Intelligence is mentioned and focused on at some point
*Few people on the “good” side get eaten, survive off whatever island they are on, escape, anthem plays
*Main villain dies at the end by death by raptor and death by Rex
*Public STILL only knows about the events of Jurassic Park as a mere rumor
*More reports about mysterious deaths in villages surrounding Costa Rica.
In all seriousness, this book might had had a fairly simple plot. Biosyn yet again tries to steal the Dinosaurs, but in the end the fail, the combination of human stupidity and defeat by people like Malcolm, Grant, Gennaro, etc. (For those of you who don’t know, Gennaro was determined to take down Jurassic Park in the book.)
However, if Crichton ever did make 3rd book, I am pretty sure he would try to make the book as realistic and original as possible. But it is hard to think what he would do, I mean after all, he was, no, is a great author, and it is very hard to think what would he do?
I am trying to think like the mastermind who created this whole franchise… Pretty damn hard.
My sister actually told me that she did some research and when Crichton wrote Jurassic Park, all of his colleagues hated him. And she found out way, because the book, characters like Malcolm, Ellie, Grant, Gennaro, Muldoon, etc. represent him, while the others like Dennis, Hammond, Wu, etc. represent his colleagues. He’s telling them they’re idiots, and I like to say it like this: It was Crichton’s way of flipping people off. Not by telling them, but just writing a book that tells someone that they’re an idiot. And to that, I salute to you Michael Crichton. Rest in Peace. You have honestly given me and others things to fascinate about, you made part of my childhood so nostalgic and my adolescence so fun, so excited about your franchise. It is sad to see that many people my age would rather read books like Twlight instead of reading books that came from people like you. Some people have even made fun of me for appreciating your franchise, but I don’t care for people like that. Before I was sad that you didn’t make 3rd book, but in light of recent discoveries for me, I fully respect your decision of not making a 3rd book. Thanks for everything.
Please comment if you enjoyed this and feel free to prove me wrong or think what you think would have happened!
One year here, hope to see what happens on these forums...
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 6:16 PMalso liek to give a big thanks to Paden for helping me with this, he reviewed any innaccuracies.
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-17-2014 6:19 PMHaha, awesome post man, this was hilarious and serious at the same time.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 6:20 PMThanks! Just curious, but what was your favorite part?
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-17-2014 6:22 PMIt was all great, not sure. That end piece where it was stated that some characters were based off Crichton's colleagues was interesting.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 6:23 PMYeah, it was interesting when I found out. It amkes sense, after all the book just wanted to show that humans can be stupid in the pursuit of satisfying the want for more Scientific knowledge. Some things should remain unknown.
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Hiphopananomus
MemberCompsognathusAug-17-2014 6:26 PMWow, that was awesome. I to think it was pretty interesting about the colleagues being some of the characters.
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JRR
MemberCompsognathusAug-17-2014 6:26 PMpreety cool raptor, but in my opinion(and probably in real life) dinos would of died affter sometime, they are not adapted to parasites and bacteria that exist today, just like in the war of the world, At The End They Where Deafeted By Gods Most Tiny Creations
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 6:27 PM@Hipho- Thanks a lot man!!! Yes, it was interesting to everyone I believe!
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 6:28 PMCat, Maybe, but remember this is Science FIction.
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Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusAug-17-2014 6:51 PMMy God that Up gif made me laugh way too hard!
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 7:00 PMYeah, thanks! When I thought about what I was going to type on the dinosaurs reaching South America I knew by my destiny I must put that picture on this article.
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Allotitan
MemberCompsognathusAug-17-2014 8:12 PMAmazing post I was laughing the whole time but seriously I agree with mostly everything. Also that last part was really interesting
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Gojira2K
MemberCompsognathusAug-17-2014 8:17 PMThat. Was. Great! Amazing job! It was hilarious and serious, just like you said it would be. My favorite part is the gif that says "It's America, but south!" That and when you talked to yourself. I like the comedic parts.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 8:22 PMThanks so much Allotitan and Gojira2K!!!! I certainly tried my hardest to make it funny.
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Gojira2K
MemberCompsognathusAug-17-2014 8:28 PMYour welcome. You really did suceed with what you wanted to do.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-17-2014 8:36 PMThank you fine sir!!!
Kind of hyper right now... And happy.
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**Al**
Community ExecutiveMemberCompsognathusAug-17-2014 10:11 PM,,,,,,, to the upper-right of Columbia is BALTIMORE.!
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-18-2014 3:51 PM...Well hoped oyu enjoyed it. And I didn't see that on the map...
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Sci-Fi King25
MemberAllosaurusAug-19-2014 6:45 AMNice job 401! If this was a book, I would read it. I never knew that the "bad" characters were based off of his colleagues! I liked the Rise of the Planet of the Raptors.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-19-2014 2:02 PMThanks a lot Sci-Fi King!!!
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**Al**
Community ExecutiveMemberCompsognathusAug-20-2014 9:34 AMman you are still wrong-
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MemberCompsognathusAug-20-2014 11:07 AMI actually like this post! Great job raptor lol.
Honestly, If Micheal was still alive there would be a high chance of a 3rd novel! Knowing that Steven Speilberg was the one that forced him to make a sequel to Jurassic Park.
Do you still think Spinosaurus would be the star if the 3rd book was released? Hmm I think it would. Since they did needed a new villain/bigger super predator to chase people haha.
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-21-2014 7:41 PM@Al -Well thanks for enjoying this post, and only commenting an a simple mistake that really doesn't affect it, and not if whether or not you enjoyed it.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-21-2014 7:42 PM@Dr. Alan Grant- Thank you! Paden actually told me that Crichton said that he believed that it would be better if he didn't make a 3rd book to avoid confusion since Hollywood wanted money (like always), so they created the 3rd movie and ebing impatient.
Maybe, after all they did majorly change the plot of The Lost World.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-21-2014 7:44 PMEven then Al, accoridng to the map I had, Venezuela is still to the upper-right... And I spent like 2 hours getting the geography right and someone is complaining a whole lot about it...
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**Al**
Community ExecutiveMemberCompsognathusAug-22-2014 9:38 PM;) I only do it for you own good, it is not a little mistake is the name of a country, and I bet you'll never forget it again. sorry for the time you've spent in geo class but still you need learn the right spelling of some words, tho.
It is fine, we all are always learning new things.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-23-2014 9:23 AMThanks, but usually when people do that they usually comment on the overall general post... I worked total on 5-6 hours on this. And I know the spelling but sometimes I don't notice some words are spelled wrong. Scified doesn't have a spellcheck system so I am tyring to make it a habit to review my posts.
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x_paden_x
MemberCompsognathusAug-24-2014 9:45 PMNever did get to post a comment to this.
Happy 1 year here Pal!
Heres to a number of how ever many you can couint to.
*Raises glass to the air, Toasting, But falls over near a table.*
Your discussion was great. It was well executed, And well Researched.
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Congrats. You show'd something that's not always done. (Research) you also played a whimsical and funny tune to this too.
Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-25-2014 5:43 PMWow, yeah me!!! That sounded kind fo conceited, haha!
Yes, I do believe I created soemthing quite unique and entertaining!!!
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Matt
MemberTriceratopsAug-26-2014 10:46 PMYou seem to have hit upon one of the loose ends of the novel, which was always up in the air. It is true, especially in the Lost World where the author seems to let the reader hint that DX is similar to the kind of encephalitis affecting the mainland, and that the mainland dinos are still living. I would say a probably distribution for the dinos would be Central America to tip of South America given a probable distribution. Normal distribution for the animals might peter out in Northern Mexico given that it ends up too close to America there and no way these animals might pass there undetected.
I did calculations on JPLegacy about mainland animal distribution a while ago...
Hypsilophodon: 26-27
Othnielia: 19-23
Velociraptor: 14-20
Dilophosaurus: 9-12
Compsognathus: 45-65
Ceradactyls: 10-14
This is me using any animal small enough to escape and get on the boats without being noticed theoritically. I include Ceradactyls in there because at the end of the first JP novel 1 was missing from the count despite all of them being in the aviary-leading me to believe the aviary was breached. Also, These numbers are the animals growth about 10-15 years after the JP incident in my calculations.