Tyrannosaurus vs Spinosaurus, who wins?

No, I mean one time I DID provide sources but people just siad they were unreliabel for every one I gave.. And a lot of times I see Rex fans saying Rex had a bite force of 15 tons and they don't even mention where they got that info. And I had to take a debate section, so I already know about the world of debating, as a matter of fact, we're doing it incorrectly.

And how are we acting like monkeys?

ok, as i've said....this is what this is what this post is for, don't be afraid to get your ideas out there.

FYI, those are Tyrannosaurus fanboys with the 15 ton bite force thing..somewhere around 6-8 is more realistic. Though i would need to revisit some jaw mechanic papers..

I instantly regret my decision to get involved. Sorry, I got steamed. I come from a time there this subject would get a bit more ah, angry, rude, violant, and overal internety (new word). Sorry, I was acting on impulse.

Thank you, you are one of the few rex fans who don't say the bite force was 15 or 20 tons.  I will admit that Spino was weaker in bite force though. I would state my opinion, but the thing is we know so littel about SPino, I can't be sure to be safe with my opinion. I once stated my full opinion on my Scified site and some people just felt every need to prve every single part of my opinion WRONG.

I believe, they are evenly matched...

There is no right answer...

401 Has a point... Spino could beat rex...

Rex could be spino...

We can only assume...  Based on the little facts we have... 

Thank you Paden for understanding me. I must be realistic. Rex could beat Spino, Spino could beat Rex, maybe there could be a tie. Now that I think of it, Dinosaur fights wouldn't always result in death and a winner. Fights only took place to fight for something like food, a mate, territory, etc. I am pretty sure fights would be a last-one-standing battle.

*smashes head on wall* 

Let's just go back to the original purpose for thos thread; discussion Rex vs Spino in a civilized, non BS way. Let's keep fanboys and sh!t out of this, and if we don't, I will lock this topic.

Consider yourselves warned. That goes for me too.

I was discussing Rex vs SPino in a civilized manner... I was just proving we can't really say too much about Spino.

Spinosaurus is in such a fragmentary state, every thing is a  guess..

However, we can infer based on it's closest relatives( in body structure at least) such as suchomimus and baryonyx.

Even then, we may be wrong...for all we have is these remains..

*17 meters is probably the max for the species

Some of us may take this too far, and the warning is more for BEFORE that happens. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

My point exaclty. I will be brutally honest...

I have jack sh!t when it comes to defending or supporting Spinosaurus.

@MR. Happy. Sometimes it's more annoying when people put warnings before anything even happens than when there is an actual fight. So far there are no signs of any fight even starting. All of us discussing here are all mature.

Just saying.

Ole spino has little to defend on his grounds..

32 posts, lol

Sorry, I find it funny.

How is it funny that a couple of people are having an interesting debate?

Yes, I do hope one day more remains of Spino are found...

Sorry. I find it annoying when people say something and give no reason for it. I understand what you mean by it, but it still ticks me off.

I didn't say anything without giving reason. I have no reason for my opinion on Spino, which is why I didn't mention my opinion. This is debate. It's practically a rule to not give opinion during debate.

Very well said Carnosaur about walking on eggshells when it comes to this topic. And Mr.Happy, what 401 just said is true, it does get annoying when somebody puts out a warning before any violence takes place, thats like getting a warning from a cop before (or if you ever do) exceed the speed limit.

These animals wouldn't have quick reactions times, by modern animal standars. Recently read something that stated large bodied theropods couldn't make a 360 degree turn in 4 seconds....and speed is certainly a factor when it comes to combat.

on to the overall speed of the animals...neither was a roadrunner from hell. Old Rexy might have averaged 15- 18mph...not entirely up to par with running speeds of Spinosaurs...but a guess is Spino probably could do 15 mph easily

I'm not sure why I find it funny to tell the truth, but it is. In that good "Hey, its a Raptor in a top hat and monocle" not the "I laughed when somebody tripped over thier shoelace.Observe changed my mind, this is a good discussion. 

T. rex vs Spino, 50/50. They had thier ups and down. Each of them. Spino with long, strong arms as well as possibly being faster. Awe don't have enough evidence, but this is what I believe. Also with the t rex having a huge bite force 7 tons, and being very strong. Its an even match practically. We may never know, but we may also find the answer in a few years with a time machine. You just never know.