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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 11:59 AMI read trex can lift up 10,000lbs in their mouth, bite strength 13,000lbs also has bacteria, sences, speed, roar, agile, acrobactic, they can feel vibrations, and intelligent
weapons claws, sharp teeth, tail, head, and talons
skills not sure hunting I guess
I'm not sure if their more and how well
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-27-2014 2:17 PMSounds accurate. I thought I heard the bite was 18 000 PSI.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 3:17 PMThe lowest estimation (that is still somewhat accurate) is at 68.000N (6.8 tons) PSI and the highest estimation (the highest that still makes some sense) is at 235.000N (23.5 tons) PSI. I personally think that it was somewhere between 90.000N and 150.000N.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 5:01 PMi agree with this, but Rex probably wasn't all that intelligient. my best guess is somewhere around a puppy, or maybe a parrot? Most dinosaurs probably weren't that smart, except dromeaosaurs maybe.
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Godzillasaurus
MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 5:42 PMQuote: also has bacteria
All vertebrates have bacteria in their mouths... And even if it was special to tyrannosaurus, it did not kill with infection
Quote: sences
Gee, really? NO! That's impossible!
Quote: roar
How is this going to be useful as a weapon?
Quote: acrobactic
Uh, no. Most definitely not
Quote: they can feel vibrations
It had nerves, we get it...
Quote: claws
Definitely not a weapon!
Quote: sharp teeth
Weren't really that sharp. They were actually quite dull and blunted to compensate for its powerful biting strength.
Quote: tail
Theropod tails were quite stiff and were only used as balance-beams. Theropods most definitely did not use their tails as weapons!
Quote: talons
Uh, no... Definitely not!
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-27-2014 5:52 PMOpinions are opinions, and if we agree with his, so be it. About the vibrations, there was a study on its brain, it could sense vibrations for miles (I saw it in Jurassic Fight Club).
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 5:56 PMXD quit with your hate. frankly i'm tired of it. we're NOT going to turn this into a debate. MR.Happy and i respect this guys opinions. We aren't gonna go off and go ' well this is wrong and so is this."
By acrobatic i bet he means athletic or strong. Rex could use it's foot claws(talons) to rip open carcasses for all we know! they weren't there to just look pretty... claws and tail are also possibly weapons... defensive mainly for the tail.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 5:59 PMT-rex's teeth weren't sharp Godzillasaurus? Well, let's just look at some pics shall we?
Well I don't know about you, but they seem pretty dang sharp even for having weathered 65 million years of errosion and whatever else the elements threw at them.
Godzillasaurus
MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 6:04 PMI am pretty dang sure that I already realize that, at least in the sense that they were pointed and serrated. BUT, they were not "especially" sharp, if that makes any sense; the originator of the thread seemed to have stated that its teeth were razor-sharp, which they werre not. Unlike spinosaurines, which possessed very finely-pointed conical teeth and many different forms of large theropods, which typically had recurved and very sharply-edged dentition, tyrannosaurus was really structured for crushing and as such were not really "sharp" by the same definition as the first guy was saying. And as such, its teeth were in possession of a quite robust point and thick edge to prevent them from breaking during hunting. So simply, yea, tyrannosaurus' teeth were pointed and serrated, but not necessarily razor-sharp as the originator indicated.
Quote: By acrobatic i bet he means athletic or strong. Rex could use it's foot claws(talons) to rip open carcasses for all we know! they weren't there to just look pretty... claws and tail are also possibly weapons... defensive mainly for the tail.
Probably not
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 6:06 PMthat's a theory bud. dismiss it all you want it's my opinion..or theory...whatever you want to call it.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 6:09 PMTyrannosaurus had serrations on its teeth. if that's the ' razor sharp' you're getting at.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-27-2014 6:10 PMTheories are theories, like them or not.
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Godzillasaurus
MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 6:26 PMThey were pointed and serrated, that is it. The serrations seem to instead be attributed to the animal's ability to use torsion to rip apart flesh, and were instead quite poorly designed for cutting like we see in allosaurus. The point as well is still present, but it rather appears to be a compensation for the animal's aptitiude for crushing as opposed to piercing deeply and gripping. In spinosaurus, we see particularly slender spike-like dentition that is highly pointed, conical, and unserrated; all of these features indicate that they were not as much reliant on strong biting and instead were used for piercing deeply into the hides of fish without breaking. The morphology in tyrannosaurid teeth was not like that of spinosaurus where it is well designed for simple moderately-powerful, perpendicular, and deep puncturing owing to a strong aptitude for gripping but instead for crushing. It is really as simple as that.
The simple fact of it is, tyrannosaurus\' teeth were pointed, but they were designed to be used for crushing and causing bone-related trauma. Such a fine point as we see in spinosaurus or such a thin shape as we see in allosaurus or ceratosaurus would be ineffective in crushing.
Spinosaurus\' dentition was very well adapted for piercing and gripping solely, not killing (although it can be used for killing with enough precision to impact the spinal cord or wind pipe of a prey animal for example), so naturally this is the primary reason why it was generally quite sharp at the point and were yet rounded in cross-section and unserrated, as they only needed to pierce deeply and retain a strong grip owing to its ichtyophagous ecology. Allosaurus\' teeth were very thin, recurved, and were better designed for cutting and ripping as opposed to gripping and puncturing, less well designed for gripping fish. Naturally, the two tooth morphologies here allow the respective animal to be an effective predator of the animals that they are specialized in taking down (spinosaurus- large freshwater fish; allosaurus- stegosaurs and sauropods), and a better designed tooth structure for crushing events is more necessary for an animal like tyrannosaurus who was evolved to hunt and kill by crushing animals like ankylosaurs for example (which were obviously quite heavily-armored).
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 6:31 PMwe all knew this already.. and this wasn't the point. Respect other people's opinions dude. don't go off and say ' this is wrong and oh so is this'. constructive criticism is better if you're so intent on saying something negative.
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Godzillasaurus
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 6:39 PMIn theroy (THEROY-CEPTION) eveything we know about dinosaurs is a theroy. We dont completly know everything, we only know what we know from the bones...
This is a rather interesting disscusion None the less,
I believe you were looking for atheletic? Not acrobatic, Tyranosaur would probably snap the rope and not reach it if it was an acrobat.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 6:43 PMyou're pathetic. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE! quit COMPLAINING and go. you've lost my respect, and probably most of us here.
I've only claimed your B.S. statements as opinions. not any one elses.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 7:39 PMLord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-27-2014 8:04 PMAnd you never disproved us. Let's NOT get into another debate.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:08 PMLooks like a typaical bias trex fanboy, prolly 10-12 years old judging by the "facts"
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:15 PMso. what.? you were 12 at one point. and i'm guessing you aren't the typical spino fanyboy?? i mean your profile picture says it all. and
@godzillasaurus i never said i did? XD
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Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:18 PMleave the kid alone. he did say ' i read' after all. don't bag on him...
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:28 PMYou need to back up bro, youve only been on here for a month or less, there is no reason for you to be upset about anything, sitting here bitching to someone who makes more sense than you. Dont just decide to start doing that toward someone a lot of other people do the same to, thats kind "pathetic" if you know what i mean. Youve never had any respect towards any of the people on here, with the exeption of the people that think the way you do. All large carnivores can roar, not that it would do much more than slightly intimidate the other, and trex acrobatic?? You be the judge of that, unless of course your are too bias yourself, i mean your comment says it all.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:32 PMPS. I dont say people make sense just because i agree with them.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-27-2014 8:34 PMHe's been on about a month, yes. What does that have to do with anything? I've been on for almost a year, who cares? Nobody. No saying anything about being biased. Nothing about fanboys either, alright?
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:42 PMI was mad...? i tend to get pissed when people attack other people for their opinions, however. my time here doesn't matter. This whole thing with Godzillasaurus has gone on too long, without you jumping in and spitting B.S. out. I've read your posts from the past bud. you have little room to talk.
Wasn't this supposed to be a friendly atmosphere? be constructive. What if he IS 10 or 12? probly won't wanna come back.
Sense? what sense has that guy made? oh wait, spino fan. gotcha. ok.
F.Y.I i ain't closed to biased. I've got an open mind. that closes when you start stating your opinions as non negotiable facts.
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Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:44 PMso, before you attack ME for what i say, know what you're talking about please :)
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:44 PMMr Happy you dont say something or do somthing just because other people do it. Hell, you dont even believe in everything Rex Fan says, you have your own sources to back up your opinion, as do I and some others do. You see that scoreboard of Trex fans and Spino fans? The majority of all of those votes are from people who dont know what they are talking about, from both Trex fans and Spino fans, the majority of votes are simply who likes the other better.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-27-2014 8:46 PMI try not to get mad and be an ass (it's gotten to the point where it's funny and unexpected for me to be an ass because I don't get mad). I try not be biased, and it has gone on too long with Gidzillasaurus.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-27-2014 8:48 PMExactly. I started writing before I saw your comment. It's all just a matter of opinions.
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MemberCompsognathusJan-27-2014 8:50 PMLook at it this way Carnosaur, would you rather read posts from kids that think their opinion is superior or adults like the majority of us ( im assuming) that make more sense even if you agree with them or not? Mr Happy i know your 14 but you take shit like a man, so ill pass you as an adult