Will Homo Sapiens still thrive if Dinosaurs were still alive?

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Will Homo Sapiens still thrive if Dinosaurs were still alive? 

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Is it true that Homo Sapiens have 10 million in population?

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Early Homo sapiens would probably have a hard time dealing with dinosaurs, however, it's likely that they would figure out a way to survive around them (and possibly even hunt them), like they did with the megafauna that actually coexisted with them at the time.

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Depends. We shouldnt be conpeting with each other's niches at all so I think direct conflict would be a huge problem.

What could be a porblem is if they upend the ecosystem. This could have devastating affects on biodiversity.

Also they could frequently target our livestock.

 

So i think they would have a harmful effect but in a subtle way.

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Homo sapiens would not even evolved since dinosaurs would already occupied those niches had they never went extinct. More than likely Troodontids would have taken the evolutionary spot in place of primates

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well if the idea is if dinos miraculously materialized now, no dinosaur shares the niche that humans currently do

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In that case, if were talking about modern humans then. I believe the dinosaurs will behave like any other animal. They'll probably gain a fear of humans after a while.

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It wasnt specified, so idk which one it is

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Xenotaris I don't think Homo Sapiens will stop evolving, no matter what happens, it is not possible that humans will stop evolving.

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SasquaDash, Agreed.

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HinikunaGoji I think if Dinosaurs still survived, I think it will damage not only the early humans but the animals and change the outcome in the future.

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Maybe they could use the strategy that scared predators in early human times, fire. Maybe though, some dinosaurs maybe were fearless.

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what xeno meant was that if the dinosaurs had survived, humans would not have even evolved in the first place

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Yeah I meant had the asteroid not ended the non-avian dinosaurs 66 Million Years Ago. I highly doubt that primates would have had the same evolutionary path as they did in our reality. Especially if dinosaur families like the dromaeosaurids had already dominated the arboreal food chain. 

I highly doubt larger and advanced primates would had evolved. It more stand to reason that sapience would evolve from the dinosaurian stock given they would be the dominate lifeforms in a similar manner that humans evolved from the mammal stock of our reality.

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Plus mammals were forced into limited niches and werent able to diversify until the extinction

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yep that too

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Xenotaris HinikunaGoji Although I don't know what those words mean, I think I get it. I forgot about what happens if the asteroid didn't ever hit the earth, that would have changed a lot.  

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Xenotaris You really know a lot about outcomes and theories, thanks for making it clear. HinikunaGoji Good point. 

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I need some time to think about what happened when the Asteroid didn't hit the earth.

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Yeah I self-studied evolution, particularly dinosaur (life long dinosaur-nerd) and human evolution (for social studies project)

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Xenotaris Hey Xenotaris, I think I fully understand what you meant now.

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Also recent studies of theropods suggest they were more intelligent than previously thought. 

Taking Tyrannosaurus for an example, its now believed the T. rex was as smart as a baboon.

So if Tyrannosaurus was as smart as a baboon, then that would mean the dromaeosaurids/Raptors, were roughly as smart as apes.

Troodons, Raptor relatives could potentially been as smart as early humans.

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Xenotaris Oh, Imagine Troodons and Raptors made houses and stone tools. XD

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hmmmmmm 

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Yeah, that would be cool

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wait..

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would that mean the velociraptors would BE ABLE TO OPEN DOORS!!!!!!

 

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Its a possibility, however anatomically its impossible for any theropod to turn its wrists facing downward. That also means, quadrupedal theropods are also an impossibility for the same reason.

So although a raptor could open doors, just not with its hands. 

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Xenotaris Maybe it's jaws

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I think a combination of it using its jaws and one of its feet, similar in fashion in how some species of birds manipulate objects

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