Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 3:48 PMCONTAINS SPOILERS!
But I'm sure most of you guys saw the movie.
Who do you think has the most brutal death? It could be anyone like random people or a Dinosaurus
To me its Zara why? because she fricken got peck by Pteronodons then got munch by Mosasaurus along with Pteronodon.
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:05 PMZara for sure. That was just plain mean on whoever's idea that was part.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 4:07 PMThis goes without question, Zara.
IMO it was still awesome...
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Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 4:09 PMYUP!
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:11 PMAwesome in a "why her? Why not someone who deserved it?" kind of way.
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G. H. (Gman)
AdminTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:12 PMIMO it was still awesome...
If there's a point to this long, eyerollingly excruciating scene involving the death of an innocent, being "awesome" is very far from it.
Vader nailed it.
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 4:21 PMThat's what I meant. (In what Vader said.)
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:22 PMPerhaps the point was to show that women are no longer invincible in the JP franchise.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 4:23 PMOr maybe the point was to make a brutally awesome death scene... WHile also making the impact that a woman is finally being killed in a Jurassic Park movie.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:28 PMThat's basically what I meant.
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Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 4:30 PMYeah, also it seems people are taking this scene a bit too seriously...
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:33 PMWell, it wasn't neccessary for Zara to die like that. It wasn't neccessary for her to die, period. But hey, not my call, and I'm not going to boycott the movie for it.
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MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 4:39 PMWell in all aspect, the whole movie itself was not necessary, you could argue almost anything was unecessary. It was just for fun. The way it was filmed and done just made me and others think "it's all for fun and entertainment".
And I love the movie becuase of all the risks it took.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:48 PMTrue, never thought of that.
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G. H. (Gman)
AdminTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 4:51 PMIf she had merely been hauled off by a Pteranodon, then okay. But the fact that her death was the most brutal and long winded, especially compared to those who deserved worse, isn't entertaining. It's just needless and offputting.
It's also a disgrace to the the franchise's more impactful death scenes and the suspense around them. Spielberg and even Johnston didn't need a lot of blood or overly long, brutal death scenes to make an impact. They had slow build-ups and forshadowing that made deaths all the more terrifying. Muldoon's death in Jurassic Park was undeserved as well, but it was more terrifying in that it showed how smart these creatures were. Was there any blood? No. Was it a particularly long scene that had the character bombarded with raptor after raptor? No.
Udesky's death in JP3 by the raptor's was both undeserved and brutal, but fairly bloodless and more shocking as it left more to the imagination and, again, served as an example for how smart the raptors were. (Setting a trap.)
Zera's death was not forshadowed, overly violent, overly long, unnecessary and hardly entertainment. It was in poor taste and, worse, one of the most inferior and unworthy deaths in the franchise's creative stock of well concieved character ends.
Typical, modern day over-the-top death fodder. The makers of Saw must be proud.
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 5:29 PMSKELETURTLETHEBEST AKA KAIJUSAURUS - This is an interesting topic. My opinion differs from that of the majority. While Zara's death was certainly the most shocking, I happen to believe the most brutal death was levied upon the Indominous Rex. The animal was beaten, thrashed, clawed to a bloody mess, impaled upon structural supports, almost certainly suffered from fractures, and very likely sustained injuries sufficient to induce internal bleeding. After enduring trauma of this fashion for a sustained period, the I-rex then has her neck compressed by the merciless jaws of a much larger predator - almost certainly resulting in spinal damage and nervous-system dysfunction. To top it all off, if the I-rex was not dead after having sustained the aforementioned punishment, she was dragged into water where she likely drowned before the mosasaur could end what little remained of her life. Zara's death was indeed shocking, emotionally scathing and brutal. The I-rex's death, while not shocking or emotionally scathing, was far more brutal. Of course, this is simply my view of the topic. :)
Therizinosaurus Rex(aka Kaijusaurs)
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 5:41 PM^
Thx :)
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 5:46 PMEVERYONE - Please, forgive my lack of knowledge, but...what is Saw? I have seen it mentioned with some frequency and GMAN2887 included its mention in his most recent post within this topic. I greatly appreciate any assistance with regards to understanding this subject. :)
Dinozilla0439
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 5:51 PM@Something Real
Without going much into the details, it's a series of really gory horror movies. Slasher films, basically. The movies have pretty much no other point than to have as many violent and gory death scenes as possible.
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 5:57 PMDINOZILLA0439 - Oh, gross. Thank you so much for providing me with this information! I will certainly give those films a wide berth! :)
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 6:12 PMYes, I hate Saw movies. Just gross.
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Dinozilla0439
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 6:17 PM@Something Real
No problem. :)
@Raptor-401
Yes, if someone were to ask me what series of movies I absolutely hated, the Saw films would definitely rank high on that list.
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 6:22 PMALAN!-401 and DINOZILLA0439 - I am uncertain as to why people find enjoyment in watching films in which human beings are tortured and/or killed in monstrous ways. Perhaps it is an "acquired taste" - one that I have no desire to develop. :)
Kasey Kockroach
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 6:22 PMI think you're all muy loco in the cabeza, in regards to those who are shocked that a horror film would -gasp- kill off a character.
I actually adore the scene, and find it horrifying in a beautiful way.
I love how this plays with your subconscious expectations in an almost Joe Dante-esque way (mainly reminds of the death of the black-haired camp counselor in Piranha). The pterodactyl isn't strong enough to carry an adult human and accidentally drops her into the mosasaurus tank. You immediately think "Oh she's dead", but the winged beasts suddenly pick her back up and stubbornly try to carry her, and from there, you have no idea what to expect. It's also a daring move to have such a grisly, brutal demise for who had been a sympathetic, put-upon character (especially from a series that once had the unwritten rule of "never let women or children become dino chow"), when audiences are accustomed to seeing only the jerks be devoured.
We also need moments like this, of true horror, so we can truly understand what a monster the Indominus was and why it needed to be destroyed. Without little moments like this, we can't care as much.
But clearly, Zara's death made all of you care. And for that reason as well, I find it to be an admirable scene.
Dinozilla0439
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 6:26 PM@Kasey Kockroach
Jurassic World is not a horror film.
@Something Real
Yes... Being as over-sympathetic as I am, I don't think I could even sit through a movie like that.
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 6:28 PMI do hate movies like that. It's just unebelievably gross and how people just love it and find it very pleasing to the mind honestly baffle me...
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-15-2015 6:28 PMKASEY KOCKROACH - I understand and respect your viewpoint. However, your assertion hinges on the I-rex as its crux. The I-rex did not slay Zara. Had it been the direct reason behind that woman's death, I would certainly agree that the scene shows how horrible the I-rex is. Instead, the I-rex is only inadvertanly responsible for the events that led to Zara's demise.
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 6:29 PMJurassic World is Sci-FI Terror, not horror... Also why do you mix ENglish in Spanish, makes your first statement sound completely garbled.
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MemberAllosaurusJun-15-2015 6:33 PMEVen then, it's just a movie... A Science FIction one... When you reall think about it I do not htink you should really feel that sad for a ficitonal character...
EXCEPT for when the dog dies. Don't kill the dog... The tears roll in on me...
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Kasey Kockroach
MemberCompsognathusJun-15-2015 6:33 PMJurassic Park has always had elements of horror, though they remain 'action-adventure' overall. This one, if anything, has those elements more prominently than before, with the increasingly disturbing and unsettling presence of Indominus, who's further and further established throughout as being less of an animal and more of a monster that directly and indirectly causes every death in the film (the pterodactyls were in a panic, mosasaur was merely hungry, and the raptors downright had an emotional turmoil going on).