saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 12:25 AMHi guys,
As we all already know the park has a Spinosaurus skeleton on display, but looking at it you will realize it doesnt really look like a plaster cast made from fossils ( like the ones on JP1 visitor center looked like ) could it be that the spinosaurus skeleton displayed at JW is not a fossil, but is the actual bones of the spinosaurus from Sorna? i mean it is possible that in the beginning of the movie we are taken back to isla sorna where Masrani global tried to capture the spinosaur but then it proved to be a greater danger than they thought probably killing many men, destroying vehicles so they were forced to kill it.
What do you guys think?
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-03-2015 12:54 AMSAURORINTHOIDES - That is an incredibly compelling hypothesis! I had not considered the possibility of the bones being "recent". If your theory proves to be true, that will be extremely interesting! The Spinosaurus from Isla Sorna was in no way, shape or form a pushover! I can only imagine what it would have taken to bring such an imposing and powerful animal down! :)
x_paden_x
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 7:09 AMI enjoy this head cannon a lot, But let me explain a bit of a problem with it.
It's teased that the Masrani Corperation returned to Sorna to secure some "Assests" Granted, that can be anything from Machinery to Specimens.
The Bones could poetentially be recent, Yes... But I think they might just be, Fake. Y'know how in museums the bones are too fragile for physical display, so they make plaster copies of them. I think it might be like that, The Visitor Center in JP1 Just had the bones tinted a shade darker. These bones are just more bright, Perhaps from the resin used in production or the like?
I do in deed like the head cannon though, A continuing motion from the first movie with raptors. But We already see the ACU soldiers getting there rears kicked by a Dinosaur, So, why make it happen multiple times?
Of course... Colin teased something about the Spino. So, We'll never know for a couple more days. But, this is a brilliant head cannon.
Good job,
-Paden
Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way
Sci-Fi King25
MemberAllosaurusJun-03-2015 1:22 PM“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-03-2015 2:24 PMIt appears to be the skeleton of the updated version of Spino that fanboys hate with a passion.
Jack of all trades. Master of none
x_paden_x
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 3:18 PMAfter viewing the Comparison shot Provided by @Sci-FiKing25
They are totally different. The JP3 spino was much MUCH larger. Regardless of updates to the fossil record, the Spino From JP3 was Rex size... This feels like, allosaurus size. Too small. Perhaps, Maybe a Juvenile in captivity that died? It doesn't fit in with cannon to be a Bred One. So, It's probably just a normal fossil casting.
Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way
saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 6:13 PMSomething Real = Thanks a lot for your feedback! it is highly appreciated. :)
Dinozilla0439
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 6:41 PMI really wish they would just leave the Spinosaurus out if they're going to do nothing good with it. I hate the idea of the T-Rex knocking over the Spinosaurus skeleton, hate it.
saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 7:00 PMThank you very much guys for your valuable feed backs. :)
X_PADEN_X = Thats exactly why i thought the bones were recent, because they looked bright, of course im not totally sure since ive never seen a dinosaur skeleton plaster cast myself, i thought plaster casts from real fossils would look somewhat like the ones in JP1. :)
As for the ACU soldiers im thinking there was no ACU at all! maybe MASRANI came to sorna with mediocre equipments and a nameless group of armed men, when they failed at capturing the Spinosaur alive and resorted to killing it to prevent it from killing them instead, MASRANI learned from that and made efforts to create an elite unit trained for the sole purpose of capturing their oh so precious assets, so thats why the ACU was founded. :)
I didnt know Masrani global teased that info about going to Isla Sorna, thanks it just made things more interesting, thanks!. :)
SCI-FI KING25 = indeed! the Skeleton is quite different from the JP3 Spinosaur, but also we could just be looking at minor detailing lapses here, i mean after all we already know how physical features (like size,texture,color) tend to change in movies, for example: Smaug the dragon, he was nowhere the same size when he was in laketown as he was inside Erebor when he first met Bilbo. :)
Also, i believe the Spinosaur Skeleton was actually meant to be as big as the JP 3 spinosaur, the photo just makes it look small the skeleton must be at the far back, you know so the camera could capture its full form. :)
saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 7:09 PMDINOZILLA439 = In JP1 we saw a sort of flasback ( i dont know what to call it ) i think we would be treated to something like that in the opening of JW, i think we'll see armed men getting their ass kicked by the spinosaur in their attempt to capture it and in the end they ultimately resorted to killing it to avoid more deaths, just like muldoon did when he ordered his men to shoot the rapture when tazing it failed. :)
Dinozilla0439
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 7:18 PMWell, I would hate to see it die but at least it would be something.
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-03-2015 7:34 PMSAURORNITHOIDES - You are most welcome! This was a very fun hypothesis to consider! :)
saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 7:37 PMDINOZILLA = Well i dont really think you will see it die, in JP1 muldoon just shouted "Shoot her!" then we heard gun shots, it would probably be like that, well obviously not the exact same way since guns probably wont hurt it that much but you got my drift.
Dinozilla0439
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 7:50 PMWell, I mean I would hate to even know it was killed, being as I was actually quite happy that Spino lived in JP3.
saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 8:00 PMOh, dont worry pal, nothings been confirmed yet, maybe that wasn't the skeleton of the Spinosaurus from jp3 but is just a replica meant as a tribute to one of the franchise' apex predators who sadly wont be appearing in the film, we dont really know, :)
Alphadino65
MemberTriceratopsJun-03-2015 11:04 PMI agree with Sauronithoides. She might still be alive on Sorna, and even if she died, it's not her skeleton. She was much bigger, had a bigger head, had 2 eye crests instead of the one central crest, her sail was more of a sinusoidal curve rather than a parabola, and her forelimbs were much bigger.
saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-03-2015 11:18 PMALPHADINO = lol, actually you just provided more evidence why im wrong. :D
but no worries! all in good and informative discussion, Good observations though and as Something Real always say "How very compelling!" :)
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 12:44 AMSAURORNIITHOIDES - It is very compelling. :)
Ntwadumela
MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 10:09 AMFor the people who think the skeleton is from the JP3 Spino, I just say this: look at the skull and stop making stupid theories.
Spinofan
MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 11:15 AMAs a confirmed Spino fan I will come right out and say that I actually prefer the updated model over the older one. To me it simply makes too much sense and falls right into line with what we do know about Spino but I suspect I may be in the minority on that subject. Oh well, que sera sera.
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 1:37 PMSpinofan, I believe it makes sense. The were people here who disliked the redonstruction with a passion burning hotter than the fires of hell. Just the same, they were the "T-Rex is a pussy and Spinosaurus is the thing we saw in Monsters Resurrected and JP3" type of Spinofans. There are reasonable Spino fans out there such as Raptor-401 and (from what I've seen of you) yourself.
Ntwadumela, people are allowed to speculate. Some of the theories are fun to read. Sure, they may not be true looking purely at the skeleton and the Spino in JP3, but they are fun. It's someone's speculation, so don't go calling it stupid just because you disagree or know it's not true. Point out flaws, go for it. Insults, try to avoid them as much as you can.
Jack of all trades. Master of none
Something Real
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 2:40 PMSPINOFAN - I could not agree more! The new iteration of Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus is incredible! I used to consider the animal to be just another large theropod. However, with the revision, I have come to consider S-Aegy one of my top favorites! The animal is unique within the dinosaur kingdom - a true marvel! :)
x_paden_x
MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 3:10 PM@Sauronithoides
I took a bit of a course back in my younger years at the Royal Tyrell museum, And it's actually just pain. The plaster is molded around the fossil, Creating a cast. From there, they pour a resin into the cast getting an exact replica for display. They then go and paint it up and make it look more realistic.
Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way
saurornithoides
MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 9:52 PMNTWADUMELA: well, calling people's theories stupid without ever offering a good explanation why, is in itself stupid. :)
also, i thought i made my self pretty clear, if this was real life like if were comparing 2 fossils we've found, i would've already gave up on this theory long ago when paden, lord vader and sci-fi king pointed out that the skeleton is different from the actual JP 3 Spino, but i reasoned out that since this is a movie inconsistencies to size and physical appearance might occur, its that simple really. :)
X_PADEN_X: Thanks for clearing that UP and thanks for the info it is much appreciated! :)
LORD VADER: Thanks for the support and for your feed backs in this post! :)