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Mr.happy debates with carnosuar

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Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusNov-19-2014 12:03 PM

Oxalia vs tarbosaurus.

mr.happy has tarbosaurus and carnosaur has oxalia.

one week begin!!!!!!!!!

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Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-24-2014 5:19 PM

I see that Tarbo was thinner than Rex, and I see that it's teeth were more blade like. Perhaps it didn't have the bone shattering seven ton bite force of its larger cousin, but a three ton bite would have been sufficient for animals similar in size to Tarbo, and with slashing teeth, it would have caused a lot of bleeding. It may not have crushed bone easily, but it could easily rip through flesh, causing its opponent to die of blood-loss rather quickly if a good bite was made. Same goes for Oxalaia controlling a similar sized predator by biting its neck because it has to be well placed.

Obviously, yes, the forelimbs would be important and could possibly give Oxalaia an edge, as would the sail for the purpose of bluffing, but that sail would likely also be a target if it gets to the battle phase. Usually, a fight would consist of intimidation attempts, where, I'll admit it, Oxalaia had a bit an edge with the sail.

Also, like any battle, it would come down to experience. An experienced Tarbo vs a younger or less experienced Oxalaia, Tarbo has an edge. If it's two experienced individuals, they may know what they're up against and both back off, or a battle of epic proportions ensuing.

Jack of all trades. Master of none

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusNov-24-2014 5:31 PM

 I see that it's teeth were more blade like. Perhaps it didn't have the bone shattering seven ton bite force of its larger cousin, but a three ton bite would have been sufficient for animals similar in size to Tarbo, and with slashing teeth, it would have caused a lot of bleeding. It may not have crushed bone easily, but it could easily rip through flesh, causing its opponent to die of blood-loss rather quickly if a good bite was made. Same goes for Oxalaia controlling a similar sized predator by biting its neck because it has to be well placed.

My bad, i didn't clarify much. Tarbo's teeth are suited for crushing, but not nearly to the extent that Tyrannosaurus possesses.

Also, like any battle, it would come down to experience. An experienced Tarbo vs a younger or less experienced Oxalaia, Tarbo has an edge. If it's two experienced individuals, they may know what they're up against and both back off, or a battle of epic proportions ensuing

Shouldn't we use two animals that are equally as experienced to even this out? I think that's the most applicable here

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-24-2014 5:53 PM

Haha, I get it. Not crushing teeth like the teeth of Rex, but not full on slashers either. Kind of a hybrid between crushing and slashing. That would be interesting to see just what teeth like that could have done.

As for the experience, of course it makes sense to use two that are of similar experience, but the question is how much experience.

If they are both rather new to fighting large predators, neither will have a clue what to do, and they'll probably awkwardly bite, lunge and slash.

If both have decent experience, it'll be an interesting battle, both having an idea on what to do, but not having the experience to know exactly what they want to do.

If both have a ton of experience, one of the best battles you'll ever see.

Jack of all trades. Master of none

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusNov-24-2014 6:23 PM
essentially interspecific conflict boils down to bluffing(again, this factor is heavily in favor of oxalaia. when that doesn't work, one animal attempts to get the upper hand...or react defensively. trying to 'disable' if you will, your opponents offensive weaponry plays a critical role. if you can avoid being hurt, you have fair chances to dole out damage yourself by countering. with this match, the spinosaur has better ways to defend as well as attack, while all the tyrannosaur can do here is...well...bite. this is the preliminary(but not only) reason Oxalaia wins more often then not here. the examples i've shown clearly show why it has just bout every edge in this conflict.

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusNov-25-2014 6:55 PM
welp, i guess this is wrapped up(unless happy wants to add anything) hats off to ya, you did good with the limited time you had! who's the judge on this one?

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-26-2014 4:11 AM

No, I'm done. This was actually pretty fun, and you did good too, as expected. 

Jack of all trades. Master of none

Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusNov-26-2014 7:22 AM

Gojira and something real are judges.

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-26-2014 4:31 PM

CARNOSAUR and MR. HAPPY9097 - This was an exceptionally fun and extremely informative debate to read! As the appointed judge of your exchange, I've read each of your points and counterpoints many times over in order to make a decisive call on this. I muist say that this was an exceedingly difficult judgement to make as you both evidenced remarkably flexible and clear language in addition to presenting your information in manner that was readily accessible to the reader. I applaud you both! I'll spare you the details on the ad-hoc percentiles I utilize to determine the victors of these debates, however, CARNOSAUR edged out the competition with a score of 9.1 - securing victory! MR. HAPPY9097 came in with a score of 8.9 - a debate total that is marked as extraordinary!

    You both should be extremely proud of the exchange you've just completed! It was cordial, controlled, and, above all else, marvelously composed! I'm impressed in the extreme! Congratulations to both of you fine gentlemen! :)

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-26-2014 5:05 PM

8.9 vs Carno's 9.1? I will take it! Only 0.2 points behind one of the best on these forums, I will take that any day of the week. Good job to you Carno, I thoroughly enjoyed this myself, we both kept our cool, we didn't cuss each other out, and no insults were thrown whatsoever. Thank you for the positive experience. 

Jack of all trades. Master of none

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusNov-26-2014 5:49 PM
@Sr, much appreciated! was a tough one for sure.. @Mr.happy, i as well enjoyed this little debate. you held your own there! gave me a run for my money, haha...perhaps this'll happen again in the tag-team debate ;)

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-26-2014 6:15 PM

Most likely it will. Until then though, we can remember the fun had here. 

Jack of all trades. Master of none

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-26-2014 7:48 PM

CARNOSAUR and MR. HAPPY9097 - I'm very impressed with you both, and I certainly hope we all have as much fun with the Tag-Team debate that's approaching! :)

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