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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 8:59 AMEpanterias(Allosaurus) Amplexus vs Carcharodontosaurus Saharicus
Epanterias
Epanterias is a genus of allosaurid from the Jurassic period of Colorado. It was described by Edward Drinker Cope in 1878. The type speciesis Epanterias amplexus. This genus is based on AMNH 5767, parts of three vertebrate, a coracoid, and a Metatarsal. Although Cope thought it was a sauropod it was later shown to be a theropod. Gregory S. Paul reassessed the material as pertaining to a large species of Allosaurus in 1988 (which he classified as Allosaurus amplexus) Other authors have gone further and considered E. amplexus as simply a large individual of Allosaurus fragilis. In 2010, Gregory S. Paul and Kenneth Carpenter noted that the E. amplexus specimen comes from higher in the Morrison Formation than the type specimen of Allosaurus fragilis, and is therefore "probably a different taxon".
Carcharodontosaurus
Carcharodontosaurusis a genus of carcharodontosaurid during the mid- Cretaceous period.It is currently known to include two species, C.saharicus andC.iguidensis, which were among the larger theropods, as large as or slightly bigger than Tyrannosaurus and possibly slightly larger than Giganotosaurus, but not quite as large as Spinosaurus. At the time being, it appears C.Saharicus is larger then C.Iguidensis.
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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 11:21 AMmore or less....Allo had a pound for pound weaker bite force then that of a juvenile rex
Hatchet jaw function is one purposed because of this, but did allo really need a high bite force? short answer - no.
It had slicing dentition, and these were designed for cutting deep into the flesh of its prey, creating gruesome yet effective bites. These bites would lead to blood loss, ultimately killing the prey animal. So, Allosaurids had no need for a high bite force, as they had their own killing techniques.
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MemberAllosaurusAug-23-2014 11:22 AMi agre
Just kidding, good point. Guess first thing I should maybe learn about dinosaurs is bite force.
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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 11:26 AMHere's a pretty interesting paper done recently(2010) going into great detail on theropod jaw mechanics and bite force. It might bore you a bit, but it is indeed rather interesting!
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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 11:27 AM@S-P: Kind of agree? what do you disagree on?
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Tyrant king
MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 11:33 AMI just think a 2 ton allosau would have a 4 ton hatchet bite
and that paper is very interesting.
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-23-2014 11:54 AMI'd say 60-40 Carchar. It was larger, more robust, and had a heck of a bite compared to Epanterias.
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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 1:08 PMI'm going with Carchar on this fight, hope its a nice fight! My second installment of T-C:K vs K will be up shortly!
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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 2:38 PMI'm going Carchar as much as I love Epanterias, a car char would be too much. I have 60-40 odds in favor of Carchar, it had the power and strength, while the Epanterias may use its agilty to out maneuver the carcharodotosaurus. And make it bleed to death. Once again 60-40 Carchar
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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 3:54 PMCarcharodontosaurus wins this in my opinion. A (possible)14-15m predator is intimiating enough haha. Same goes for weights. Estimates go up to 8-13 tons.
User Hiphop, todays animals fight on instinct not intelligence. Intelligence comes to play when hunting for food. Look at Crows for example.
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MemberCompsognathusAug-23-2014 5:00 PMAn animal can fight using intelligience, but that's using the term rather loosely. Flanking, face biting, etc. can be coined as intelligient manuevers on the part of an animal, but it's really more strategic offense realistically.
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