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New finds hint at larger size for Apatosaurus

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MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:23 PM

We all know this guy, a child hood classic that immidiately comes into the mind when we thing "sauropod". It was huge, at around 21 meters(70 feet) and weighing in at thirty tones, it was immense.

But, a new find coming from Grand Junction, Colorado, hints at an even larger size for the species.

Though only a femur, it's gigantic. Standing taller then the average man at 6'7'', it dwarfs the previous record holder which stood 5'10''. It's almost a certainty that this thing belonged to an apatosaurus at some point, and it fits quite comfortorably into the size range of this animal. Why, you may be asking? 

  • Even the biggest-known Apatosaurus wasn't a fully grown adult when it died . So it is widely believed that even larger Apatosaurus are probably out there, just waiting to be found.
  • Kay's new femur is 12% longer than the femur of CM 3018 (which was previously the longest-known Apatosaurus femur). There is an incomplete Oklahoma Apatosaurus specimen (no intact femur), and each of its bones outsize the bones of CM 3018 by 11-30%. Kay's 12% longer femur fits comfortably in that range, putting it easily in the realm of Apatosaurus-size-possibility.

Analysis of quadrupedal animals is more difficult since the position of the center of mass of an animal determines the weight supported by either pair of legs. Such a determination in extinct animals is difficult since the internal systems of these animals is poorly understood or studied. We can use extant animals today as a guide.

For the sake of saving y'all from a headache, i won't go into that...but instead a more basic, yet just as accurate method.

the largest specimen had a femur 5'10'' tall, and that animal measured 20 meters TBL. Apatosaurs' weren't exceptionally heavy creatures either, this one weighing in at 28 tons.

so..

by extrapolating the overall size of other apatosaurs(and their femurs) Our new 6'7'' femur would belong to an animal 22 meters long, and weighing in at 35 tons.

But, that's not all. An oklahoman specimen, discovered sometime in 2012, is of even larger size . It's is known by the 5th dorsal vertabrate.

I haven't seen any numbers on it, but it is indeed massive.

So, there we have it. Apatosaurus just got that much bigger, showing once more of how little we actually have of this amazing prehistoric creature, and its relatives.

 

 

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

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Rex Fan 684

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:24 PM

Cool find :)

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Allotitan

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:28 PM

Interesting, if you excuse me I need to re-think my whole childhood

 

JK but awesome find either way

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Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:28 PM

Awesome find as usual 

Hiphopananomus

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:30 PM

Nice find!

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Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:35 PM

It's good see a Dino get up sized instead of downsized 

JRR

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:38 PM

So all apatosaurus are young?

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MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:48 PM

Yes Finally, an upsize instead of a downsize

 

Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:53 PM

Could u guys give Iideas for my sierus clash of contemporaries 

Such as  

siats vs sauroniops 

Hiphopananomus

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:53 PM

CatZilla, no, I just think it means some of them were small individuals.

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Hiphopananomus

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 1:57 PM

Predator X how bout Giganotosaurus vs ekrixinatosaurus?

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Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 2:05 PM

ok, any more?

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 2:09 PM

@ Catzilla - not young necessarily, just none of them had reached adulthood, or adult size for that matter. Dorsal vertabrate in most are not fused, in some it's a singular bone located near the chest....i just can't remember the name. We haven't found a whole lot of these guys, mind youwe've found a lot by sauropod standards, but i think we have around 10 individuals in all. The fact they were all immature specimens intrigues me

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 2:13 PM

as for the clash of contemporaries, i would suggest

Troodon vs Gorgosaurus

Sauroniops vs Paralititan

Mapusaurus vs Argentinosaurus

Tyrannosaurus vs Torosaurus

Acrocanthosaurus vs Deinonychus(pack of 4)

 

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 2:27 PM

how about  a pack of 12 deinon

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 2:32 PM

sounds good!

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusAug-09-2014 3:28 PM

Nice find Carnosaur.

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Spinosaurus Rex

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 6:55 PM

I knew it would just be just a matter of time before they uped the ante on Apatosaurus's size.

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 7:03 PM

i've been suspecting something like this for years, we may get some official numbers soon which is always exciting

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Silver_Falcon

MemberCompsognathusAug-09-2014 7:53 PM

Wonderful news. Littlefoot just got that much more awesome.

 

And Pred X, some ideas are:

Tarbosaurus vs. Therizinosaurus

Velociraptor vs. Protoceratops

Spinosaurus vs. Carcharodontosaurus (saharicus)

Allosaurus vs. Stegosaurus

T. rex vs. Triceratops.

Here, have a waffle (-'.')-#

Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusAug-10-2014 6:13 AM

I was thinking more like gorgosauruas vs daspletosaurus 

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