Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-06-2014 9:27 AMSpinosaurus: The Internet's Most Overrated Dinosaur
Yes, I do know this could piss some people off. No, I don't care how this is viewed.
Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus, perhaps the longest and tallest theropod to walk the Earth. At around sixty feet in length, almost twenty two feet in height, upwards of twenty tons in weight, wielding seven foot long arms with claws over a foot long, Spinosaurus seems like an unstoppable monstrosity. Not the case. We don't actually know how big the creature got.
Could it be over sixty feet long? Yes. Could it be over twenty tons in weight? Yes. Could it have seven plus foot long arms with claws over a foot long? Yes. Is this likely? Hell no! It's more like 99.999999999% not a flippin' chance in hell.
First discovered in the Sahara desert in 1912, Spinosaurus's very existence was proven by fragmentary remains that were in poor condition. Just the same, the bones were brought to Germany and looked at before being bombed in World War 2.
Average size estimates for Spinosaurus range anywhere from five to nine tons (scientific), to twelve plus tons (Spinosaurus fanboys). Let's say, by some fanboy miracle, Spinosaurus was over twelve tons in weight, it would likely be unstoppable in its time, as Carcharodontosaurus, a large theropod that lived alongside it, has no fanboys putting it at freakishly (not to mention unreasonably) large.
I will say, quite a dinosaur Spinosaurus is. It's amazing what speculation will do.
From this:
We have this: 
On the topic of Spinosaurus being oversized by fanboys, here are two comparisons.
I heard somewhere that the small dinosaur is Allosaurus. Must be a young one I guess.
I also heard that the small dinosaur is a Tyrannosaurus Rex. That's a funny way of spelling "Gorgosaurus" if you ask me.
And now, here's a link to an event by national geographic, stating Spinosaurus's size. It says over fifty feet long, twenty feet tall, and six tons in weight. Don't believe me? Click here
Back to size, here is a comparison with Spinosaurus that is actually reasonable. 
What else makes Spinosaurus overrated by internet fanboys? Since the extreme size is BS, here's more reasons it is overrated. Diet and behaviour.
Let's start with diet. Spinosaurus was mainly piscivorous, meaning it ate mostly fish. I know what you're thinking, the fish it ate were huge. That's why it's assumed Spinosaurus, much like it's relatives, had large arms. How large? No one knows, though it's often speculated at about six feet long. Using it's long, thin jaws and conical teeth, Spinosaurus would be able to grab its prey and hold it in place while the large arms and claws did the dirty work. After killing, or during the process of killing, Spinosaurus would likely walk to shore, drop the fish, and begin eating.
Why the big arms if it would just carry it's victims in its mouth? It needed the arms to be able to reach far enough to actually do anything to said victim. There is no doubt that Spinosaurus would be able to carry its victims in its mouth as it likely didn't catch anything over a ton in weight. For an idea on strength to support Spinosaurus being able to easily carry heavy fish, the Jurassic Fight Club version of Tyrannosaurus Rex (about seven tons in weight) was capable of carrying a five ton Edmontosaurus carcass. It carried something that was over half it's weight, so Spinosaurus should have no trouble lifting and carrying something a mere sixth of its weight.
What does behaviour have anything to do with this? Well, being mainly piscivorous, it would be put into less competition with other predators such as Carcharodontosaurus. Less competition means less fighting, which means not as good at fighting as similar sized, or even smaller predators such as Carcharodontosaurus.
Spinosaurus also had a large sail on its back. It would likely be useful for temperature control, but beyond that, it's only other useful purpose would be making Spinosaurus look larger, a great intimidation tactic. The sail however, was attached to its spine. If Spinosaurus got past the intimidation part of a fight, the sail would be nothing but trouble during the actual fight. If the sail was hit hard enough, or Spinosaurus was knocked onto its back, the fight would be over, as the Spinosaurus would be dead or paralyzed.
Jack of all trades. Master of none
Hiphopananomus
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 11:53 AMHow is it not overrated? It's constantly called the heaviest theropod, it's sometimes said to have hunted sauropods, many people say it would be a good fighter. There's plenty more examples.
"Somewhere on this island is the greatest predator that ever lived. Second greatest predator must take him down."Roland Tembo"
"Jurassic park: The Lost World"
Silver_Falcon
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 12:00 PMI'm not saying it isn't overrated, but To quote Mr. Happy: "Spinosaurus: The Internet's Most Overrated Dinosaur". However, I find that there are, as I stated many other dinosaurs (read Velocirator) far more over-rated than spinosaurus. Is spinosaurus overrated? Yes. Is it the most overrated? No. Has it been drastically blown out of proportions and completely and utterly overestimated on multiple occasions? Definately.
Here, have a waffle (-'.')-#
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-06-2014 4:04 PMT-Rex is also overrated.
IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!
Hiphopananomus
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 4:22 PMTrue, but not as much as spino IMO.
"Somewhere on this island is the greatest predator that ever lived. Second greatest predator must take him down."Roland Tembo"
"Jurassic park: The Lost World"
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-06-2014 4:31 PMHmmmmmmmm. Didn't post a discussion in a long time, comments rolled in faster than I can eat a pizza. Interesting.
That 401, is an opinion. I could argue that right here right now, I could make a new post for in the next few weeks, or I could completely ignore. I'll do the second one. The title shall be: Tyrannosaurus Rex: Is It Really Overrated? Something like that anyway. It'll be fun.
Jack of all trades. Master of none
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-06-2014 4:38 PMThen why comment? No need to come across as mad or annoyed, and I wasn't trying to come off as mad or annoyed, just asking.
You ou have to admit, these are valid points, are they not? Remember, this is the internet, anything can and will be argued about, and I found this fun to make.
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Spinosaurus Rex
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:41 PMAren't you supposed to be a moderator? And you also stated you dont care about getting bitched at because you knew you would? Ive gotta tell ya, that was a very good assumption. I'm frowning upon this discussion and even more to you. Arent you supposed to NOT make people bitch? I would love to tell you how much T-Rex is overrated, and even more happy to tell you how much yourself overrate it.
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:45 PMi got an idea s. Rex. Don't comment if you don't like it! really, really easy. Instead of "i'm not gonna deal with this.
Rex isn't nearly as overestimated as spino, point blank end of story!
I will list reasons if you feel so compelled to listen, but mr. Happy is pretty much hitting the nail on the head with this post.
@ Silver not what i meant. Why do you believe the overestimates, as opposed to the moderate ones?
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
Hiphopananomus
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:52 PMall of the big four are overrated. Spino is decently the most overrated of the four.
Here's what I think the order is.
Spino
Rex
Giga/ carchar
"Somewhere on this island is the greatest predator that ever lived. Second greatest predator must take him down."Roland Tembo"
"Jurassic park: The Lost World"
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:53 PMIn the words of Silver's forum sig, here S-Rex, have a waffle :)
Is that random?
YES!
Spinosaurus Rex
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:55 PMOh really? I DO know that if i posted a discussion about T-Rex being overrated, you would probably be one of the first ones to call me out and call me biased. That aint exactly "not commenting on what you dont like" now is it? As i would get comments just rolling in from the rest of you.
Silver_Falcon
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:55 PMWhen did I say I agree with the overestimates? I think they're just as ludicrous as you do.
Here, have a waffle (-'.')-#
Rex Fan 684
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:57 PMS-Rex, to quote my forum sig, you make decisions. And you have to live with the consequences.
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 5:57 PMok s. Rex, make one. Go ahead. No one really cares. I may call you out for misinformation, but not to call you bias. Even though you've done a pretty swell job at expressing this in the past.
@silver i misread you, my bad...they are pretty ludicrous though!
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-06-2014 6:00 PMI put no comment because liek you say it, this is the Internet. Expressing an unpopular opinion is not a good idea.
IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-06-2014 6:01 PMDid I start this? I guess. Calm down, every single one of you. I figured this would piss people off, but why not try to keep your cool?
Jack of all trades. Master of none
Spinosaurus Rex
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:02 PMOh but it aint like that, and it wont happen like that. Im talking about me, instead of Mr Happy, just out of the random scenic BLUE make a discussion about Rex being overrated, i guarentee you would care a lot. I have tried to get somewhere with you, but obviously we arent getting nowhere soon. This topic might as well be closed right now.
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-06-2014 6:03 PMAnd if I made a Rex is overrated topic, you'd completely agree with it, would you not? I'll make one, but please, no bitching on it.
Jack of all trades. Master of none
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:03 PMI'm sorry, but are you calling me bias in some sort of back handed insult? cute. I could care less, as you can see from my discussion with the other spino fanboy, i don't let the overexaggerated nature of any animal go unheeded. But sure, go ahead and call me bias. Whatever floats your boat man
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-06-2014 6:05 PMCarno, you've said enough, stop now. No need to put gas on the fire.
Jack of all trades. Master of none
Spinosaurus Rex
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:06 PMNO, just dont bother Mr Happy, Please whatever you do, Don't! It will not help SH!T
JRR
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:07 PMLets setle this almost all dinos are equally over rated raptors, tyranosaurses, there's no point in figthing, rexes are almost equally over rated some say he is an aplex hunter others say he is a scabemger, it dosen't matter, everybodie has difrent opinions and you can't change that
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:08 PMyeah no, its fine. S-rex, let's talk about spino, shall we? hmmm where to start...oh i know! how about its size! since you think we all underestimate it, how big do you think it was?
Cat, rex was neither. It was most likely an oppurtunist.
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
Raptor-401
MemberAllosaurusAug-06-2014 6:09 PMAll dinos are overrated somehow. Rex, Spino, Raptors, Stegosaurs, etc. Mr. Happy, you said your self that some person always has to bring it up out of nowhwere when everything was calm, yet 50-75% of the time it is You who brings back up the topic. I think I will say no more.
IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-06-2014 6:10 PMTalk sh!t about Rex, no big deal. Talk sh!t about Spino, big deal. Seems fair, I guess. You do realize how hard we had ALWAYS tried to AVOID offending you guys, but the second we do, you can say whatever the hell you want and it's no issue. Well, I'm tired of that BS. If you can say negative sh!t about Rex, we can say negative sh!t about Spino.
Jack of all trades. Master of none
JRR
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:10 PMCarnosaur, enaufgh you will make him really angry!
Carnosaur
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:11 PMOh, mr. happy we can't do that! because then we upset them, and they call us out. And then use some Bull about how they can't say the same things about rex because we'll attack them....seriously...it gets old. Real quick.
I'm not walking on eggshells anymore. I'm tired of tip toeing around this dinosaur because saying something that someone here doesn't agree with is going to send them into rage mode. I'm not doing it any more.
@Catzilla: chill. It's fine. Let's see if he responds with personal attacks, or something intelligient regarding the size of spino. Looking forward to it actually either way
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
JRR
MemberCompsognathusAug-06-2014 6:12 PMEvery one of you is beeing very inmature, stop it rigth now!
