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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-22-2014 4:15 PMHello there. Over the past month, I've been going over various disertations involving the anatomical viability of various dinosaur species with relation to modern-day fauna. Some of the most fascinating pieces of information concern the overall appearance of the animals - to wit, their sophistication as organisms. Allow me to expound for a moment.
When you or I look upon a modern-day animal, say an elephant or lion, we're looking upon the product of many, many millions of years of evolutionary refinement. Their genetics have been fine-tuned to present a creature able to survive in this world after an extensive period of evolutionary "trial-and-error". Many of those genetic modification were a product of the age in which dinosaurs still roamed the face of our world. With that as the case, how sophisticated were dinosaurs with relation to their appearance?
Many films and artists depict dinosaurs and other ancient creatures with features and colorations that mimic those found in animal life across the planet today. This is, of course, an understandible course to take when visually describing an ancient life-form; it stands to reason present-day creatures would share similar traits with more ancient organisms. However, recent theories have begun to suggest that dinosaurs, while similar to the beings we see in our day and age, would likely be quite alien and primitive with regards to overall appearance. They might have been scaled and brightly-colored, but their features would have been proto-eveolutionary to us. Their eyes, nasal passages, mouth structure, movement and mannersisms would have been extremely unfamiliar to us - as much as the world at the time of their dominion. It is very likely that we wouldn't recognize a living dinosaur (with regards to supposition and theory), for it would in no way behave in the manner depicted in films and books. Such a creature would likely disturb our senses and frighten us in the extreme due to the fact that we would be looking back upon a time before the world's genetic lineage had refined itself to the point in which our species now dwells.
I certainly find this new notion extremely compelling and slightly unsettling! Thinking of a T-Rex in the flesh and having to consider the fact that it might be as alien as a creature from some distant star is both intriguing and likely to give me disquieting dreams! As always, your thoughts and conjecture on this topic are most appreciated, even if you choose to keep them to yourself. :)
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MemberCompsognathusJun-22-2014 4:22 PMThis is quite the concept and one I think was worth bringing up. Nice job :)
Anyways, I don't think their overall appearance would be all that "alien" to us, but the behavior conducted by these animals would be. We guess as to how a T.rex attracted a mate, but we'll never know. Maybe it did some "dance" like a modern bird of paradise. Maybe it fought other males to impress the female like bison. Maybe it did something else all its own. For me, the behavior of animals dead for 65 million years is what seems "alien." I hope this is what you were getting at. Theoretical things are hard for me to wrap my head around, so I took a guess, haha.
Once again, great post.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-22-2014 4:37 PMREX FAN 684 - Indeed. The behavior and mentality of the creatures is the primary focus of the post. However, the physical appearance is an underlying portion. I'm certain that a T-Rex would look fundamentally like the interpretations we've seen in films and artists renditions. However, There might be certain aspects about the animal's physiology that would confuse us. For example, a T-Rex's eyes might have been similar to those of a modern day gecko, as is illustrated in the image below. Most species of gecko are extremely primitive with regards to genetic lineage. That would certainly be somewhat unsettling! :)
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MemberCompsognathusJun-22-2014 4:43 PMIndeed. I do think, since it's likely T.rex had realy good binocular vision, it's eyes would look like an eagle or hawk...
Not only does this show the animal has great vision, but simply looking at the eyes shows the depth of the intelligence of it. I find that unsettling myself. But like I said, that's what I THINK.
Either way, if this was looking at me, I'd probably pass out...
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MemberCompsognathusJun-22-2014 6:38 PMTruly interesting....i think The coloration of the herbivores would be drab, or match the foliage around them. It's a smart evolutionary tactic that keeps populations thriving, while the predators take out the sick, old, injured, etc.
However, i do believe their behaviors would be unique, much unlike that of modern day reptiles and birds. It could be that i'm wrong though, and they shared the ritual behaviors of the fauna alive today.
We may never know, but it's truly interesting to guess and configure behaviors based on fossil evidence and modern day animals
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
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MemberCompsognathusJun-22-2014 6:47 PMNow that I said it, I find the idea that T.rex did a mating dance like a bird of paradise quite intruiging. Some might laugh at this, but I'm serious. Seeing a male T.rex bobbing it's head and flashing bright head crests or feathers would be quite something.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-22-2014 7:08 PMREX FAN 684 - The premise of a T-Rex dancing like a Bird of Paradise is beautiful. Maybe it's because I'm a woman, but I find the idea cute, stunning and eerie in its similitude to modern-day avians. I see no reason why a creature of that size and presence wouldn't attempt to win a mate by showing-off what nature gave it - assuming its coloration was dazzling or it sported an array of feathers that was vibrant! Oh, and I, too, would likely pass out or ruin one of my favorite skirts were a T-Rex's gaze to fall upon me! I'm a 5', 106lb woman! What could I bloody do other than run or faint?! :)
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MemberCompsognathusJun-22-2014 7:25 PMeither way, it's gonna eat your face
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-22-2014 8:00 PMCARNOSAUR - Hahaha! Well spoke! I believe your thoughts on the colorations of herbivores to be quite accurate - and you're likely very right in assuming that the animals, as a whole, would be unique in mannerism and personality. They'd no doubt be something completely foreign to you and I! :)
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MemberCompsognathusJun-23-2014 12:29 AMHmmm...would sound more interesting to me if I were a uniformitarian evolutionist, but I'm not, and proud of it. I see more evidence pointing towards catastrophism and creation. Either way, we all have to have faith in something, you have faith that the earth is millions of years old and evolution is actually accurate, and I have to have faith that God is real and everything the Bible says is true.
Sorry if I've offended you Something Real. :)
Youre fat, and I'm not sugarcoating it cause you'd probably eat that too.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-23-2014 3:32 AMVery interesting and highly plausible. Only time (machines) will tell.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-23-2014 6:45 AMJEZZA - Oh, you never have to worry about offending me, sweetie! I, too, have a great deal of faith. However, I believe that the power(s) that created the grand universe as we know it took time to do so. I suppose you could say I believe in God in the universal sense. All of the immense energy composing the countless trillions of stars and galaxies forming the cosmos is certainly part of a grand design - fashioned by intelligence. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if that staggering an unfathomable well of energy is the creator that breathed life into all things! Trust me when I say this: I've an incredibly strong amount of belief in what we can and cannot see. ;)
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-23-2014 6:49 AMMR.HAPPY9097 - Hahaha! Indeed! I'd love to step back in time if such a course of action were possible at this point! Could you imagine actually watching ancient animals in their native environment? That would be bloody amazing - and likely terrifying! :)
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-23-2014 11:29 AMIt would probably be pretty bloody, yes, but I would enjoy it for the most part.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-23-2014 11:35 AMMR.HAPPY9097 - Absolutely! Hmm, I wonder if it's possible to make a time traveling widget out of a broken hair-dryer, two bobby-pins and a curling iron... :)
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MemberCompsognathusJun-24-2014 3:12 PMGlad to have not offended you Something Real. Did you chack out that Wingfeather Saga book series?
Youre fat, and I'm not sugarcoating it cause you'd probably eat that too.