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1. What are your size estimates for Amphicoelias? do you think it was larger ( heavier) than a blue whale?

 

2. Do you know any mods for jpog that includes new dinosaurs that look cool. It could be any mod.

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Modding for JPOG Has gone down. Most Don't include new Species as it is a pain to Program and Code such a thing. However, I've got a friend who is a coder, And there is most Definately one Mod like that.

 

However, As great at JPOG Is, and Always will be, A fan made Game Inspired by JPOG Is in Production, Known as: Prehistoric Kingdom. Our Very Own DinoSteve On the Forums is part of the team.

 

I suggest you check out their Game. It's not out, but Tech Demo is only Weeks away.

 

http://prehistorickingdom.com/

 

 

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In his paper Carpenter* says he simply scaled up Diplodocus c.'s vertebra to 2.7 meters. The only problem is that he used the dimensions from Seismosaurus for diplodocus's vert, but said the length of Diplodocus was only 26.25 meters. This small mistake of recording diplodocus's vert as 1.22 meters instead of .946 meters has lead to the widespread belief that Amphicoelias was 60 meters long and 120 tons in weight. In reality using carpenter's method with the correct numbers we get, 2.7/.946=2.864. 2.854x26.25 meters=75 meters long. Also 2.856^3=23.2. 23.2x12 tons=278 tons. 


A quote from Zach Armstrong on the subject. (note, he uses a 11.5 ton Diplodocus)

I’m not sure where Carpenter got his mass and length estimates–since he says he basically says he just scaled it up isometrically. A 2.7 meter tall vertebra is 2.79 (270 cm/96.6 cm=2.79)times as tall as the D10 in D. carnegii which means a length of 69.75 meters if D. carnegii was 25 meters long or 73.23 meters if it was 26.25 meters like Carpenter assumes. A resulting mass estimate should then be 247.38 tonnes (2.79^3=21.7; 21.7*11.4 tonnes=247.38 tonnes)!

And this is assuming it was the 10th dorsal! What if it was the 9th? Scaling the vertebrae, we get 270/94.6=2.85; 2.85^3=23.14; 23.14*11.4 
tonnes=263.79 tonnes! 

Adding intravetebral cartilage, which accounts for ~10% of the body lengths of most birds and reptiles, increases the dimensions even more. 

These estimates are backed by scientific methods, and are the best way we have of guessing Amphicoelias's dimensions. 


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This thing was massive...here it is in scale with D. Carnegii and Torvosaurus 





*Measurement for Diplodocus's vert is from: Osborn, H.F., and Mook, C. C. (1921). "Camarasaurus, Amphicoelias and other sauropods of Cope." 

 

 

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I remember this pack that has a somewhat almost perfect eustreptospondylus, a skinned dilophosaurus which has his frill and crest removed, and attack their prey by biting them (using the venom spit animation), it also has it's own digsite, oxford clay iirc

got it from modding genesis
I forgot the pack name though, but it probably no longer accessible now since no one mod JPOG anymore

as for amphicoelias size estimation, from what I read in wiki and other sites
it is a large and long and slender sauropod, so blue whale is heavier, according to them
Here's a picture of the size estimation

 

size comp

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T-REX WHITE - Wow! I'd never even heard of this animal until I read this post! That is a fantastic and immense sauropod! I got butterflies in my stomach just thinking about it! :)

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Amphocelias is awesome and is probably around 62-63.4 m

The Best jpog mods are PMEP DJE and Charming Cretaceous 

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PMEP, DJE and Charming Cretaceous are imo the best mods for JPOG out there. I can only recommend them. As for Amphicoelias, I usually estimate it at around 60-70m in length and between 150 and 200 metric tons.

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I tend to be a bit hesitant when I give an estimate for Amphicoelias. I'm a bit conservative. I estimate it to be about 160-200 ft long and about 90-130 tons in weight. Longer than a blue whale, but lighter than the heaviest one on record.

 

As far as JPOG Mods go, I don't know how to mod it(I have it for PS2), but here are some cool ones I found...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man, there are just so many cool mods!

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