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Jurassic Park III

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MemberCompsognathusJune 10, 20144745 Views45 Replies

I just re-watched the controversial Jurassic Park III last night, and I have to say, I think it's a lot better than people make it out to be.  And this is not just because I am a fan of Spinosaurus - in fact, I would consider the Spinosaurus and its activities the lowpoint of the movie, what with the fact that it cannot burst through a compound door.... or a tree.... or that it is totally robotic in its animatronic movement.  But I'd just like to ask, what do you all think about the movie as a whole?  Do you love it, hate it, or are you somewhere in between?  What specifically about the movies made you cringe or put you on the edge of your seat in a good way? 

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If you ask me, JP3 was Nim's Island with dinosaurs and more people, and some slight plot changes (kid gets rescued instead of escapes, becomes next Bear Grylls). Just send me a PM, I'll respond when I get home. I have big fingers, and I'm using an Ipod. Sorry to be so short with my answers, I'll go more in depth when I get home.

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No problem.  Take your time; I can wait.

"Either way, you probably won't get off this island alive."

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I personally thought the worst example of all 3 JP movies of making the Dino's into monsters was in JP 2.  The entire San Diego scene basically made the T-Rex into a Godzilla-like monster.  In all reality, when a wild animal see's a town, it doesn't invade it and kill everything in its path, it would go the opposite way.

I would at least give JP 3 credit that they left the dino's in their natural habitat and you could at least assume that they were just being territorial.  Animals don't just go barreling through civilization, I don't even think the mighty T-Rex would have.

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Jurassic Park /// was a good movie in my opinion. Not excellent, not terrible, just a fun, entertaining movie. Personally, I really like this movie, not because of the movie itself, but more for nostalgic reasons. Although I accept the various flaws it has.

A problem it has its that it practically slapped in Jurassic Park's face by killing off and replacing the Tyrannosaurus in such a puny way. Besides some of the aspects already pointed out, it bothered me that the movie didn't balance very well between the Raptors and the Spinosaurus. It seemed like it was a little Spinosaurus at the begining and a little at the end and all the time in between we were just waiting to see what the raptors would do. Also, the CGI was good but various times it was noticable when it changed to animatronics, a problem balancing the effects. And the story wasn't very elaborate ether: "People escaping from dinosaur-filled tropical island".

But it introduced the public to a new dinosaur: Spinosaurs. A very interesting, awesome (and my ultimate favorite) dinosaur. Maybe not in the best way, but it did. We can all agree that if this movie had kept the Tyrannosaurus and the Spinosaurus all along the movie it would have been GREAT! We could have even had an ending like the first movie by making them fight again.

Bottom line, it was a fun, totally watchable, and good movie, despiste having its various flaws. It's a story that could have happened in the Jurassic Park universe, although maybe it wasn't the best story to show in a movie.

Oh and also @Carnosaur this movie doesn't compare to "Godzilla '98"! that movie WAS bad, silly and insulting. Although it can be a dumb, mindless piece of entertainment to watch once in a while.

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Well the movie was decent to me, but it had mediocre acting, not much science in it, the Spinosaurus was made into some immortal god, the raptors were treated as some stereotypical monsters in a cliched monster movie, the special effects were mainly CGI-based, making it look unrealistic, the movie could have been longer, and that's all of what I can think of right now.

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That's another thing Raptor. It was substantially shorter than the first 2.

 

PS- Dino Fan and Lotus, I kinda feel like I'm being a little criticized for my opinion of the movie. I was asked what I didn't like about it and you're trying disprove my opinion. I don't love it and I don't hate it, end of story.

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How the hell can you disprove an opinion? That's the point of an opinion, you can't say it's right or wrong...

Yes, it was about only 1 1/2 hours long while the others were about 35 minutes longer.

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Maybe I'm just a bit paranoid, but looking at some of the comments, that's how I feel. Please tell me if I'm wrong. 

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The ending ruined JPIII for me. The climax with the raptor eggs was weak enough but when we hear the helicopters and see THE GUY WITH THE MEGAPHONE IN THE SUIT ON THE BEACH BY MYSELF  it still makes me gringe. Seriously?

Alan Grant's dream with the talking raptor... Too cheesy for my blood

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I'll look at them right now and see what's up.

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jpjoe, what you said about the raptor dream reminds me. How could Grant dream about the raptors from JP III when the only ones he ever encountered looked different? The raptor should have looked like one from the first movie. Theoretically speaking.

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I will say one was trying to disprove you while the other just wanted to know more of your opinion.

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So I'm a bit paranoid and a bit right. Sounds like my usual self, haha.

"Men like me don't start the wars. We just die in them. We've always died in them, and we always will. We don't expect any praise for it, no parades. No one knows our names." ―Alpha-98
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It's alright. Before when you Rex fans would criticize Spino I would get paranoid and act like you guys were criticizing me. But then I looked at it and realizing I was doing the same thing for Rex, so I have grown to not get offended anymore.

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Uh, guys? Did anyone say welcome back to Dino.Fan? 

 

Welcome back Dino.Fan, long time no see.

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Sorry, but it looks like I came here on the site long after Dino.Fan has come here... I officially became a full-out regular about 4 or 5 months ago.

Well then welcome Dino. Fan, hope you can stay with us.

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DINOSAUR.FANATIC - This is an extremely compelling topic you've posted! As a general whole, I felt that Jurassic Park III was a fun and easily-followed film. However, I also believe that it lacked a great deal of the magic present to a large degree within Jurassic Park. To be fair, the Lost World was something of a comingling of egdy techno-thriller and "shoot-'em-up" action that boasted slightly less thought-provoking instances and provided a more straightforward thrill-ride. Don't get me wrong, I liked the Lost World; I watched it three times in theatres and perfected the art of hiding snacks in my purse! ;) However, it, like JP3, seemed to trail-off sequentially from the first film. Naturally, the first movie in a franchise often gets the lion's share of the attention. Yet, I can't help but feel that Jurassic Park III fell steeply away from its forerunners.

   In Jurassic Park and the Lost World, the animals, in my opinion, were presented as living beings for which we could feel awe, fear and wonder - beings who were in and of themselves living, brething scientific quandries. Additionally, the actors provided strong performances, merging interesting dialogue, slight humor and subtle quirks of personality that made the films fun to watch even when the dinosaurs weren't present on the screen. However, with JP3, the actors and animals seemed to be little more than display pieces without personality or depth - props for an all-out action film. The Spinosaurus, in my opinion, is one of the most glaring aspects of this train of thought.

    Instead of providing this magnificent creature with personality and depth, the story-writers treated it much in the same way as a T-800 from the Terminator series - an unstoppable killing machine without any other goal other than to track down and slaughter the protagonists. There was simply nothing else to it. Sure, it killed a T-Rex, but that seemed more like a "look at how powerful, awesome and good at killing this dinosaur is" flaunt. Had the Spinosaurus been treated with the same care and attentioin to detail as the animals from the previous two films, I've a feeling it would have been well-recieved by all fans.

   That being said, there was one instance in particular that I felt managed to recapture the magic of the original Jurassic Park, the Pteranodon scene. In my opinion, that segment was one of the most tense and rivetting moments throughout the entire film - causing me to actually feel suspense and concern for the protagonists. Not only that, but I felt that the Pteranodons themselves were excellently portrayed and affectionately rendered in CGI! I certainly hope this helps to satisfy some of your curiosity. Regardless, thank you very much for bringint this to us! :)

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I like the dinos, but I hate the plot

idk, the plot seems so weird to me

and I'm kinda dissapointed when amanda (the blonde with megaphone) survived

so if you asked me if i like it or not as a whole, I think I'm somewhere in between

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double post 

sorry

 

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Sorry I didn't respond earlier - I was busy last night, haha

@Like a Bossk - I agree, I prefer seeing dinosaurs in their natural habitat, and that is a good point: what if these are animals who are territorial, and feel threatened? Maybe the movie is a constant chase, but there could be a reason for that. Good point.

@Spinojira - I'm also glad this movie gave Spino some time in the spotlight. Guys, I hate that fight scene just as much as anyone. I would have at least given Rex a more dignified death than those ten seconds of abomidable Jack Horner-influenced choreography. And I agree, I love it for nostalgic reasons as well, despite its many flaws.

@Rex Fan - I apologize if any of my comments came across as undermining or rude; I certainly didn't intend to insult you, and I respect all your opinions.

@jpjoe84 - True, that guy was cheesy, but I mean he had the navy and marines with him. I think it was meant to be corny.

@Raptor 401 - I agree that the movie should have been longer. No objections there. I will say that I believe the acting was purposeful. Remember, these are not a group of attuned, learned, curious scientists conducting behavioral research like in JP or TLW. This is a couple distraught over the potential death of their son. They are not supposed to speak eloquantly or calmly think rationally; that's Grant's job. When these actors come across as inept, confused, or just plain bad, it's because of the characters they are portraying, which are meant to be portrayed in this light. And let's give the Kirby's some credit - after all Mr. Kirby was able to help fend off the Spinosaurus.

@Something Real - That's hilarious that you perfected snack-sneaking in the theater! I agree, and I think that the "shoot-em up" nature of TLW added some charm to the plot.  It's interesting how you say that the dinosaurs lacked purpose or depth. I agree, but I think that this was purposeful. In the first two films, characters composed of scientists studied the dinosaurs and were able to appreciate the wonder of these animals. In the third film, we have a distraught, confused and terrified family, who naturally are not able to appreciate the wonder of the dinosaurs because they are too busy running for their lives. I know that if my family was stranded on the island, I would certainly not be taking time to marvel at the animals, I would be horrified. Granted, the film is not devoid of appreciation for the dinosaurs; recall the astronaut/astronomer conversation, Grant's brief tour from the plane, etc.

As for the characters, I believe they are given as much depth as any Jurassic Park characters have been given. We don't have much back story, but events lead to them coming to the island, then eventually escaping. As I said before, these are very human characters. They act much like you or I would act if stuck on an island. They cannot think rationally and are fraught with fear. It's Grant's job to be thinking rationally in this situation. 

"Either way, you probably won't get off this island alive."

--Alan Grant

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