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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJul-21-2013 1:43 PMMy opinion on Spinosaurus is that it could get to about 10 tons and 60 feet long at the most. I think that the fossil that was bombed in WW2 was one of, if not, the largest Spino that will ever be found. My reasoning is that it was found in poor condition, and may have been the only one that was strong enough to survive the millions of years in the desert before it was discovered. I think Spino may have averaged around 50-53 feet long, and 7-8 tons in weight.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 2:10 PMI like your ideas mr happy. I do have to disagree with the weight, I think it is about 8 tons at that size, but I'm not saying your wrong, and I'm not saying I'm right. I the Spino could be in poor condition just because it was scavenged by something big after it died. And it died most likly if old age because almost nothing would attack a Spino that big.
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJul-21-2013 2:16 PMYou never know. But, this is my opinion.
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MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 5:43 PMI put Spino at 46-56 ft long, 20-23 ft tall(head), and 5-7 tons. Comparable to both of your estimations. Cacharodontosaurus would have been more than capable of taking on an adult Spinosaurus. Not underrating Spino or anything, but Carchar was a fierce and large carnivore too.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 5:48 PMWell that is at your estimate. And this is about twenty feet longer than carcharadontosaurus. Very scary, no matter what you are. (Sauropods over 100 feet not included.)
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MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 5:52 PMLonger than Carchar and probably a little heavier, but Carchar was probably more powerful and had the more lethal bite. These are just my opinions of course.
Spino and Carchar could hold their own in a fight against one another. Neither would be invincible even as an adult.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 5:56 PMYour right, but Spino is longer, has more teeth, and a huge sail that can be flushed with blood. Remember, most "fights" are normally two predators roaring at eachother.
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MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 5:58 PMYeah I know. I'm not looking to get into a debate about this or anything. Just stating my opinion.
Gotta work on the Delta vs Diplo fight right now.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 5:59 PMI'm rooting for Delta, but putting my money on Diplo.
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futurepaleontologist1
MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 6:20 PMAlright, let's look at the statistics. Spinosaurus had a large sail atop it's back. This can tell us a lot about the animal itself. If we can figure out where the spine connects to the hips and the legs, then we can find out how tall and long the animal was. Now you're probably saying "That doesn't asnwer my question" But, in a way it does. The saurischan hips are so unique, especially on Spinosaurus Aegypticus that if we can find several of those hips we can determine the average size of a Spinosaurus, and ou of the data we have collected, the average size estimation is about 11 tons and 64 feet
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MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 6:42 PMYou have to look at the whole animal though. Not saying you are wrong and I'm right though.
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJul-21-2013 6:46 PMThis discussion was more about opinions, and I'm glad to see that there are different opinions on this very peculiar dinosaur.
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MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 6:56 PMThis is how I list the four biggest carnivores(most commonly stated)
Biggest to smallest(relatively speaking that is)
1. Tyrannosaurus rex- 40-50 ft long, 18-23 ft tall, 7-10 tons
2. Giganotosaurus- 40-46 ft long, 18-20 ft tall, 7-8.5 tons
3. Spinosaurus- 45-56 ft long, 20-23 ft tall(head), 5-7 tons
4. Carcharodontosaurus- 36-40 ft long, 14-16 ft tall, 5-6.5 tons
Sizes based on my estimates and don't correct me. I'm not correcting anyone else. Just stating how I list em and what the sizes are IN MY OPINION.
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJul-21-2013 7:02 PMThat's the whole point of this discussion, stating you're opinions.
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MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 7:04 PMI know, but some people, I'm not saying anyone in particular or anything, but some people might ignore that fact. Just making sure those people know ;)
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJul-21-2013 7:07 PMI know, and I have an idea on who you mean (no offence if you know who you are).
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MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 8:07 PMI'm sure many, if not all, agree that Spinosaurus was truly a unique and giant predator.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 8:29 PMIf we're talking opinions here, then these are mine,
1: Giganotosaurus, 50 long, 20 tall, 9 tons
2: T. rex, 42 ( I will believe 45) long, 16-17 tall, 10 tons
3: Spino, 60 long, head 20 sail 27, 8 tons
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Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexJul-21-2013 8:34 PMThat's pretty reasonable Delta.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusJul-21-2013 8:36 PMI do have to admit that it is biased in Giganotosaurus's favor, but I do think it is possible.
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MemberCompsognathusJul-22-2013 8:44 AMDelta, so you don't use weight to determine which is biggest? I'm not saying you can't do that or anything, it's your opinion after all, but all the "pros" use weight. Giraffes are taller and longer than elephants, but elephants weigh more and are considered bigger. I'm just saying. Not correcting or anything. You can go by how you want to.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusJul-22-2013 12:39 PMI use more of a weight plus height plus length. Remember I made a discussion on it.
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Dinosaur.Fanatic
MemberCompsognathusJul-22-2013 3:50 PM@Rex Fan -- Maybe Spino DID weigh more than Rex. In that case, he would be bigger in [i]your[/i] standards, too. This is all opinion, and we can only speculate and estimate the weight based on the skeletons and such. Who knows? Just because Rex is more compact doesn't mean he was heavier. (Haha, we went all out on this debate in my post a while back about Spino vs. Rex. :) )
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MemberCompsognathusJul-22-2013 5:09 PMYeah, so let's not do that again. It'll just be the same thing all over again. Now, I'm not saying Spino did not weigh more than Rex. If he did, then yes, he would be bigger. But I don't THINK he did, so he's smaller. In my opinion. Either way, Spino certainly holds the record for longest land predator at around 56 ft, give or take depending on who you're talking to.
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