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MemberCompsognathusJun-27-2013 2:58 PMI think any carnivore that weighs over 8 tons would sustain injury if it fell no matter what. When you have that much weight falling, I don't care how big your arms are, it's gonna hurt.
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MemberCompsognathusJun-27-2013 9:12 PMim sure Spino probably walked a lot too, probably more than swimming
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-27-2013 9:18 PMThat's true. Any dinosaur is going to walk a lot. T-Rex and other large predators would probably follow a herd of dinosaurs around and therefore walk more than Spino, which likely would have just stayed near the same lake or river until it needed to find a newer, better fishing ground. It would walk more to find carrion and hunting small dinosaurs (not saying it can't take a larger dinosaur).
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MemberCompsognathusJun-28-2013 7:27 AMI have a comment to sort of turn this discussion in a different direction, based on a sub-discussion from another thread:
I've always had this theory that Spino was not truely that attuned for swimming as depicting in Jurassic Park III. I thought that that fight scene was more fictional than scientific. But if you look at the skeleton and build, the clawed limbs would not be built for paddling through deep water. There's also the formation of the limbs in which the legs are longer than the arms, making it difficult for swimming (except in very deep water) unless the back legs were sprawled out behind. Also, while Spino's eyesight was good, I can't imagine it being able to see well underwater. To imagine Spino gliding through the water hunting fish is to me like imagining an ostrich taking flight. I do think Spino would have hunted fish, but either standing in or beside the river, and at most wading into it, but not actually swimming underwater. (Keep in mind I'm on team Spino, not by any stretch trying to undermine my favorite dinosaur or anything).
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-28-2013 9:41 AMThat is interesting. I think i mentioned something about it not swimming much on a different discussion.
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MemberCompsognathusJun-28-2013 2:46 PMI agree. It could probably swim if it had to, but not on a daily basis. That sail could catch a breeze and blow it off course if it was above the water, then again, it could act like a sail on a sailboat, I don't know. There is one thing I would like to point out about Spinosaurs. It's not downgrading him or anything. It's the way it won the fight I JP3. Of course Spino could beat a Rex once and a while, especially a sub-adult like in JP3. However, the way he did it was all wrong. It should have used it's claws more. They had him grab the Rex by the back of the neck in it's jaws and hold it's shoulders and head with it's hands to keep it from getting away. That was one thing. Then, he used his hands to twist the Rex's neck which broke it. Based on my research, which I did a lot before I brought this point up, Spino did not have the wrist action required to do this motion. It's not a matter of it's jaw strenth, but how it's wrists and hands could move. I just thought that was interesting.
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MemberCompsognathusJun-28-2013 3:15 PMSpino had a pretty good grasp on Rex's neck, and he used his arms to his advantage, aiding his neck muscles in snapping Rex's neck.
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MemberCompsognathusJun-28-2013 3:24 PMYes, like I said, Spino did not have the wrist action needed to do that motion. I found it interesting that the Spino "magically" slipped free from the Tyrannosaurs' jaws. I think Spino should have used it's claws far more than anything else. The Rex should have used it jaws more than just head-butting the Spino.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexJul-06-2013 10:02 PMI found an image with a skull comparison.
[img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101003190116/archosauria/images/e/e2/Skulls2.png[/img]
Pretty sure the one on the left is Carchar.
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MemberCompsognathusJul-07-2013 2:45 PMIt is. It can also represent Giga in a way. All of them are huge. Spino and Carchar/Giga may have longer skulls than Rex, but Rex's is more powerful. It's like a bull-dog or Rottweiler compared to a husky or Labrador. Not as long, but stronger.
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Gigadino
MemberCompsognathusJul-24-2013 4:42 PMI think this is a 50/50. Both were huge and dangerous predator.
PrehistoricTeen
MemberCompsognathusJul-27-2013 7:29 PMSpinosaurus, unlike T-rex, would have hunted in the water because paleontologists believe it had pressure sensors at the tip of the snout like a crocodile, would that have made the T-rex stronger because it was more used to taking down bulkier prey and weren't T-rex's teeth sharper?
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MemberCompsognathusAug-16-2013 11:11 PMThis is a great comparison good job!!!!!im curious do you like spinosaurus?i like both Rex and Spinosaurus ,I like spinosaurus more cause it is so unique
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexAug-17-2013 9:22 AMYeah, I like both. I just like Rex a bit more. Spino is top 5 for me though.
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MemberCompsognathusAug-24-2013 3:02 PMThe T. rex was a fighter and far stronger. I read this interesting article
The Tyrannosaurus Rex’s Dangerous and Deadly Bite
"The dinosaur had the strongest bite of any land animal – even harder than we previously thought"
By Brian Switek
Tomcarterhestard
MemberCompsognathusSep-01-2013 10:51 PMHaha...!..not the T-Rex,Spinosaurus was the smarter dinosaur...!..just go and check up on some facts...the -T-Rex's vision was based on movement,so if we didnt move,we can easily escape the Rex,but not the Spino...we cannot stay like that in front of a Spinosaurus..!..It'll swallow us in a glance..!..he'll know that we're living or non-living if we even didnt move..!..and because the Spino also caught fish,it should probably have a higher IQ...catching fish is not like catching prey on land,catching fish is a 100 times difficult,and while catching fish,spino hunted land-prey too...it means Spino was smarter....than a T-Rex for sure..
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexSep-03-2013 6:28 AMReading all three of your posts, I have a feeling that you don't really like Rex all that much. There is no proof that Rex couldn't see movement, and I remember hearing that it could see heat signatures (also unlikely).
This may sound like a strange request, but could you please state that these are your OPINIONS. I have mine, and you have yours, and we prefer to have others say opinion, rather than, "This is what I think, so this is what it is." We have dealt with others that were worse than you (no offence guys, you're great now).
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MemberCompsognathusSep-03-2013 1:23 PMTomcarterhestard, 2 things
1. T-rex seeing only movement is complete bull. It could not survive like that. The thought that T-rex could not see in movement is something created by Jurassic Park, not a proven fact or even an accepted theory. Tyrannosaurus almost certainly had binocular vision with a good visual filed overlap.
2. As far as intelligence goes, T-rex belonged in the same group of dinosaurs, the coelurosaurs, as Velociraptor, Deinonychus, Troodon, and modern birds. It's simply common sense that T-rex would be very smart. Spinosaurus belonged to a much more ancient group. A more primitive group. While smart for a spinosaur, I seriously doubt it was smarter than a Tyrannosaurus, a member of the smartest dinosaur group.
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Godzillasaurus
MemberCompsognathusNov-28-2013 4:29 PMTyrannosaurus did not necessarily have an oversized skull, just a very heavily-built skull. Spinosaurus actually had the longer skull of the two, although it was much shallower and thinner dorsally. I am talking about when spinosaurus is larger than tyrannosaurus, of course, as skull lengths are determined by an animal's size and head-body proportions.
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MemberCompsognathusNov-28-2013 5:09 PMGodzillasaurus, T. rex did have one of the biggest haeads proportionately. Spino did have a longer skull, but Size doesn't determine the animal's skull length. Take Giganotosaurus. It probable had a head of 6 feet while 46 feet long, but Spinosaurus only had a head of 7 feet at 60 feet long. 1 foot difference head, 15 foot difference body. There isn't that big of a jump with T. rex. Its skull is about 5-6 feet long, at 42 feet. Only one foot difference with three feet difference.
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MemberCompsognathusNov-28-2013 6:12 PMI wasn't talking about proportions; I was talking about an animal having a larger skull due to larger size. Giganotosaurus and carcharodontosaurus had paritcularly longer skulls proportionally than tyrannosaurus and spinosaurus, but that does not mean a bigger spinoaurid or tyrannosaurid will have a smaller skull. That is what I meant. Size does not determine proportions
Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusNov-28-2013 6:35 PMRight, but you where sadeter body size deteremains skull length, and that's not exactly true either. Partially true, but not 100% spot on.
Godzillasaurus
MemberCompsognathusNov-28-2013 7:26 PMProportions and size both determine skull length. Size as a whole does not do so, but that in conjunction with head-body proportions does. An example would be a similarly-sized carcharodontosaurus and tyrannosaurus; the allosaur would have a much larger skull.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-28-2013 7:54 PMI'm with Delta on this one, and we all know each others opinions. I personally think that Spino maxed out at 60 feet, but averaged around 50 feet. I think Rex averaged 40 feet and maxed out at around 45 feet. Let's not get into overall size, we all have DIFFERENT opinions on this topic, and it was a bloody stalemate, which is why we decided to kill the topic.
So Rex vs Spino is dead, it's nice that you have your opinions, but let's not get into which is bigger, that's what pisses people off (not to mention getting the regulars to swarm the topic).
So please, no more Rex vs Spino. Sound good?
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-29-2013 3:07 PMDid what I say there just go in one side of your brain and out the other? Its literally the comment before yours. We all know this stuff, and we have all stated it at one point what we think would happen. The only Rex vs Spino discussions that were posted recently are by people who signed up recently, but as I've said countless times, Rex Vs Spino is dead, it's a stalemate between members, so we stopped.
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MemberCompsognathusNov-29-2013 5:02 PMMrHappy is right. And also, why are so many people coming back to these older posts?
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-29-2013 6:30 PMNo idea. Probably because these are the first ones that appear.
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MemberAllosaurusNov-29-2013 7:34 PMI like this! I'm a Spino fan but I find this list very accurate.
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MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-29-2013 9:36 PMThank you, for both agreeing with this list, and not stating any opinion on which would win.
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