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godzillasaurus vs trex

Something like that would be entertaining to write for sure

I bet people thought Alamosaurus reaching over 100 ft long and 80+ tons was crazy too, but they found evidence for it. Saying an animal could not reach a certain size when that animal has been dead for millions of years is ridiculous. Personally, I put T.rex at 40-50 ft long and 8-14 tons(I can explain why if you want, but if you know anything about me, then you already know why) and Spinosaurus at 46-56 ft long and 5-8 tons(same as what I said about T.rex).

I didn't say it did. Tyrannosaurus, and indeed every land based carnivore to ever live in the history of the earth can in, no way, sustain itself solely on carrion. Even the animals today we see as scavengers - hyenas and vultures - take living animals. That whole "rex is a scavenger" hypothesis has been debunked and discredited....you should know that one.

Nor has any predator fed on one particular prey species its entire life span. Oppurtunistic feeding is indeed a key component in predators. Even an animal specialized in feeding on fish - like the sea eagles - will take birds, sea snakes, mammals, etc. You cannot claim that Spinosaurus didn't partake in this, unless you have evidence to the contrary. I would say it is a necessity, as what would an animal as large as spinosaurus do if the rivers it was so adapted to dry up? the population would starve; the species would vanish into extinction rather quickly. There is little doubt it fed on other animals. you saying otherwise is pointless speculation!

 A size of 50 feet is absolutely nonsensical for tyrannosaurus! 

Can you point me to evidence that says Tyrannosaurus could not reach that length? I myself seeing 45 feet as a maxiumum, and a weight around 9 tons. But that's besides the point.

I'd like to add that of course Tyrannosaurids had a different killing technique then the other theropod families! it's dentition was meant for crushing bone a far distance from the slicing, gripping, tearing teeth of other theropod families.

I firmly agree that its rostrum was in fact probably very strong, and it is certainly evident when you examine it intensely (it was particularly dense and solid by theropod standards, at least when examining the size and presence of pockets within the skull; AKA fenestrae). Its strength would be much needed when grasping such powerful fish that were most probably the majority of its overall diet.

But I must say that its dentition as well was not ideal for ripping or tearing either; its morphology was similar to that of modern crocodilians in that it was round in cross-section as opposed to more oval and narrow. It has been theorized that it could have killed with violent head-shaking (ripping apart the prey animal in the process), but this has been jossed by rostral-strength studies

I have read a multitude of times with different sources that spinosaurus, basing it off of more complete spinosaurids, would yield a max size at around 55 feet in length (note that it seems as if spinosaurines were bulkier than baryonychines). A size of 50 feet is absolutely nonsensical for tyrannosaurus! And 23 tons for spinosaurus is even more ridiculous

"I remember jack Horner stating Tyrannosaurus Rex had one of the best senses of smell of any animal...with the exception of the turkey vulture. He used that to complete his crazy Rex being a scavenger hypothesis. I myself believe it would scavenge, as all predator do at one point. But an animal 7 tons in weight can not efficiently feed itself on only carrion, In addition, we have evidence of tyrannosaurus predation."

-Size is not determined by diet... A scavenger could just as likely survive off of carrion as a potentially even much larger animal (spinosaurus) could live off of fish solely (albeit largish fish. But this is a common argument for people on Topix and such; that spinosaurus "could not only live off of fish"). But the truth is, it was simple adapted to do so, and opportunist feeding (while definitely possible) is not a necessity for survival. The same thing can be said about tyrannosaurus, although I personally believe that it was primarily a predator that would have killed differently from most other similar theropod groups such as allosauria and megalosauria (that does not encompass spinosauridae)

Nice switch up, Very good fight. 8/10.

I am serious, though, I would be interested in what Mr. happy or any fight writer here of this forum would have to write.

I'll close this one for you since you got a double post here.

Nice. Don't get to see these guys in fights too often, so this was a nice change up. I also like how the herbivore won for a change since the carnivore usually does.

Raptor, these are for you ;)

Spinosuchus, in response to your "substantially larger" statement, here are the size ranges I've seen for both animals in my 15 years of studying prehistory...

Tyrannosaurus-

36-50 ft long

10-23 ft tall

4-12 tons

Spinosaurus-

33-60 ft long

10-26 ft tall

3-23 tons

So, no, the size difference is not common knowledge. There's a lot of overlap and times when T.rex is bigger and Spinosaurus is bigger. It varies to much to make a statement about which was bigger with any real certainty. Hope that makes sense(it came out a little differently than I hoped).

Great fight.

fatality!

REDTIGER243 - This is a very compelling list you've put together! As a whole. it looks very solid and well-presented. Of course, I can't make many specualtions as we know very little about what dinosaurs were actually like when they still lived upon the world. For all we know, the T-Rex could have flown! That notion is so unlikely as to be ludicrous, but bone can only tell us so much. Regardless, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us; this was very interesting! :)

MR.HAPPY9097 - Definately buy the shotgun! ;)

CARNOSAUR - First five seconds?! Wow! you're being quite generous! ;)

Tyrannosaurids were some of the most advanced predatory dinosaurs to ever walk the earth; evolutionarily speaking. They evolved to become the apex predators of their environment; out competing the allosaurids(correct me if i'm wrong).

 Finally, you must consider size (spinosaurus was a lot larger; quite common knowledge for people who study this stuff) Not actually common knowledge, as the size is disputed almost every day! can you provide evidence of it being substantially largeR?

 I remember jack Horner stating Tyrannosaurus Rex had one of the best senses of smell of any animal...with the exception of the turkey vulture. He used that to complete his crazy Rex being a scavenger hypothesis. I myself believe it would scavenge, as all predator do at one point. But an animal 7 tons in weight can not efficiently feed itself on only carrion, In addition, we have evidence of tyrannosaurus predation.

I found an article linked to study stating that Tyrannosaurus did in fact, have the keenest sense of smell of the theropods. 

Here's an exerpt..

"The researchers looked at the importance of the sense of smell among various meat-eating dinosaurs, also called theropods, based on the size of their olfactory bulbs, the part of the brain associated with the sense of smell. Although the brains of dinosaurs are not preserved, the impressions they left on skull bones or the space they occupied in the skull reveals the size and shape of the different parts of the brain. Zelenitsky and Therrien CT-scanned and measured the skulls of a wide variety of theropod dinosaurs, including raptors and ostrich-like dinosaurs, as well as the primitive bird Archaeopteryx." You can find the article in its complete form below.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081028205650.htm

Tyrannosaurus would be destroyed in the first 5 seconds XD

Well, my first name starts with an S, so...

1. Stygimoloch

2. Sinornithosaurus

3. Styracosaurus

4. Saurophaganax

5. Spinosaurus

6. sinosauropteryx

7. Shantungosaurus

8. Seismosaurus

9. Scipionyx

10. "Scrotum" (I had to)

It was fun, though.

Good fight indeed.

How about T-Rex vs. Godzilla. Step it up a bit...

The eye of sauron vs the lizard eating master

0_0

when raptors ride sharks with bazookas we are done for

The first of my many spoof posts...

Yes, just ignore it, it was myfault. Fear nothing, nothing went wrong, I was just being stupid.

Um, to anyone reading this, please ignore the past *looks at number of replies* 113 replies. 

i think thid should have reamined closed no one will coment anymore beacause this is old

Come on dude, how is this going far off?

it is said of everything

and you are not in charge of the godzilla forum because youve never go there instinctive gigan and gojira2k are in charge there

nor the AVP because nobody has posted since may

Everything, eh? Well, this partnership won't last. What part of "I, Lieutenant 9097, am in charge" Don't you understand? Well, not everything, cause I've got two words for ya. 

TOPIC CLOSED.

Sorry, buts it's gone too far off track now, and are people really going to comment? 

I AM IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING... HMMM HMMM... I HAVE MY WAYS...

Um, 401, correct me if I'm wrong, but you just stated that you're in charge, correct? 

If you're right, what do we do?

I believe the question is, "What won't we do?"

105 coments in one joke post wow

THIS AIN'T NO JOKE POST THIS THE TIME OF RISING...

A HO IS TALKING... WHY THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE CAN RESULT IN A BAN...

look ho is talking

OF COURSE YOU ARE CRAZY!!!!