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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

I said Black Beauty is the smallest adult.

 

Stan was about 40.1 feet long.

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Sci-Fi King25Dinosaurs ForumSpino and Rex Meme I Made

This is pretty funny. Nice meme RexFan.

 

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumSupposed Longest Sauropods

Evreything said before this is Definetly true. Good luck on your paper!

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CarnosaurDinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

when did black beauty get a size upgrade? She is one of the smaller adults, if not the smallest we have at 10.5 meters in length.

If Black Beauty has a ~5-tonne mass(A guess, but pretty likely), it's an adult smaller than Stan. Stan represents one of the smaller tyrannosaur adults, correct?

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumSupposed Longest Sauropods

No problem. Feel free to ask more questions. Happy to help :)

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Yeah most if not all paleontolgists estimate mapu at 10-11 meters 12 is ussualy pushing it.

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Alejandro Coria SabellaDinosaurs ForumSupposed Longest Sauropods

Hey guys thanks for your imput im writing a paper on sauropods and I appreciate your help.

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AllotitanDinosaurs ForumSupposed Longest Sauropods

Amphicoelias is a real dinosaur dinosaur described from one gigantic bone. The only problem with amphicoelias is that the only bone has been lost to science. It just disappeared, so scientist only work with the drawings left of it.

 

As for Bruhathkayosaurus, it may or may not have existed. It's only remains have been lost due to monsoon flooding. Also speculation may be that it was actually petrified wood.

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Didn't you put the lower estimate of Tyrannosaurus at 10 meters? I have no idea where you got that number when Black Beauty is the smallest adult we have and she's 11 meters.

 

Anyways, because the lower published estimates are indeed 10 meters for Mapusaurus. 

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Gojira2KDinosaurs ForumSpino and Rex Meme I Made

Haha, that's funny. Great job!

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CarnosaurDinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

why such lower bounds for mapu? We have remains pointing at the species being larger then 10, 11, or even 12 meters

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CarnosaurDinosaurs ForumSupposed Longest Sauropods

Bruhathkayosaurus and amphicoelias are troublesome, really. We don't have physical remains for either.

Also, i would steer clear of the sauropods only known by footprints. They are probably distorted by erosion, and other factors. But there are giants off of those, i just wouldn't take their estimates seriously.

For the largest sauropods we know, argentinosaurus, alamosaurus and another big one from china i can't quite put my finger on...they are the largest we know from any decent remains

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumSupposed Longest Sauropods

Amphicoelias did exist. It's fossils are now lost. Most estmates run anywhere between 100-200 ft long and 100-200 tons. Bruhathkayosaurus is in the same range, though it's fossils may be those of trees.

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Yeah. My estimates are

mapu 10-11.5 meters and 3-6 tons

giga 12.5-14 meters and 7-8.5 tons.

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Agree to disagree. I estimate Mapusaurus at 10-12 meters and 3-5 tons and Giganotosaurus at 12-14 meters long and 6-8.5 tons. 

 

Besides, this was about Alamsaurus, not Giganotosaurus/Mapusaurus.

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CarnosaurDinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Yes, but "could be larger" is exactly like the fragmentary tyrannosaurs, or spinosaurus....any dinosaur really.

The minimum The shaft dimensions of MCF-PVPH-108.145 are7.5 by 10 cm, which is 10% greater than those inthe holotype of Giganotosaurus. This suggests thatthe specimen represents the largest individual ofMapusaurus n. gen. from the bonebed.

Fromthislink: http://www.mnhn.fhttp://www.mnhn.fr/museum/front/medias/publication/7653_g06n1a4.pdfr/museum/front/medias/publication/7653_g06n1a4.pdf 

I've never trusted Wikipedia scales. Wikipedia itself puts mapu at 33 feet and 3 tons.

wikipedia actually refers to the max size as being undefined but about as larger as giganotosaurus and > 10,2m. every other website states 12,2+m as a max lenght.
the publication initially describing mapu refers to it as larger than 12,2m. the theropod database which is a reliable source refers to the fibula as belonging to a 12,6m individual, and the pubic shaft could be bigger depending on the proportions of the animal. 33ft is no serious max size estimate. If i'm correct, it was the smaller individual found in the group of individuals that was unearthed. And the larger specimens aren't Fossilized freaks, the chances of us finding one of those are rather low.

 

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumSpino and Rex Meme I Made

Haha. that would be an awesome epic rap battle.

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Giga

Giga

 

Mapu

Mapu

 

there are the upper estimates for mapu compared to the average estimates of giga... As you can see giga appears a great deal more robust then the Mapusaurus.

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

I copied this from the link you gave me...

 

"This taxon was discovered in 1995, but only reported to Coria in 1997, when he and Currie examined the material. It was announced at that years Society of Vertebrate Paleontology meeting, and described briefly in an abstract (Coria and Currie, 1997). At the time, only the remains of an 8 meter long specimen were known, and it was identified as an adult. Coria and Currie returned to the site in 1998 to discover the presence of at least six individuals, some of which Currie said could be larger than Giganotosaurus’ holotype. The largest specimens are MCF-PVPH-145, 185 and 202, which are about 100-103% the size of the Giganotosaurus holotype."

 

Could be larger than the holotype.

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CarnosaurDinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

you guys realize that the largest mapusaurus is dimensionally 10% larger than the giganotosaurus holotype, which means at least 2% larger than MUCPv-95, and should, assuming geometric similarity, be 1/3 heavier.

Theropod database on Mapusaurus

Also, i don't quite understand where you guys get the "more slender then giga" idea, only the smaller carcharodontosaurs were slenderly built, and Mapu isn't one of them

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Yeah, I think your mistaken Carnosaur. Mapu seems to be much more slender then giga. And it doesn't seem as long ether.

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Also, Mapusaurus lived after Saltosaurus and Aucasaurus(I believe)...

 

 

Are you sure Carnosaur? The largest Mapusaurus fossils indicate animals about 12 meters long and 5-6 tons. The 14 meter, 8 ton estimates are usually considered too high.

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CarnosaurDinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

I always thought they meant "Carcharodontosaurs"

Mapu was probably larger then Giga, actually. Quite interesting

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Yeah, your  probably right. Seemed a bit big for a mapu.

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Same. I'd assume it was supposed to be Giganotosaurus.

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Yeah, I've seen it. The one thing I didn't get is why they called the gigas/mapus Carcharadontosaurus. Otherwise I really enjoyed it.

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Did you ever see the episode of Dinosaur Planet, Alpha's Egg? Something tells me it'd appeal to you Hipho ;)

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Omeisaurus, is cool as well. I don't kno where my love for Saltosaurus comes from. to me it seems like a combination between a ankylosaur and a titnosaur.

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CarnosaurDinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

i always had a soft spot for saltasaurus. Omeisaurus is up there as well

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Hiphopananomus Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Cool, I personally like Aregentinosaurus and Saltosaurus The most.

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Rex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumThe size of Alamosaurus sanjuanensis

Oh, almost forgot. Alamosaurus is my favorite sauropod with Camarasaurus and Titanosaurus right behind it.

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