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I said Black Beauty is the smallest adult.
Stan was about 40.1 feet long.
This is pretty funny. Nice meme RexFan.
Evreything said before this is Definetly true. Good luck on your paper!
Nice dinosaur choice Carnosaur!
when did black beauty get a size upgrade? She is one of the smaller adults, if not the smallest we have at 10.5 meters in length.
If Black Beauty has a ~5-tonne mass(A guess, but pretty likely), it's an adult smaller than Stan. Stan represents one of the smaller tyrannosaur adults, correct?
No problem. Feel free to ask more questions. Happy to help :)
Yeah most if not all paleontolgists estimate mapu at 10-11 meters 12 is ussualy pushing it.
Hey guys thanks for your imput im writing a paper on sauropods and I appreciate your help.
Amphicoelias is a real dinosaur dinosaur described from one gigantic bone. The only problem with amphicoelias is that the only bone has been lost to science. It just disappeared, so scientist only work with the drawings left of it.
As for Bruhathkayosaurus, it may or may not have existed. It's only remains have been lost due to monsoon flooding. Also speculation may be that it was actually petrified wood.
Didn't you put the lower estimate of Tyrannosaurus at 10 meters? I have no idea where you got that number when Black Beauty is the smallest adult we have and she's 11 meters.
Anyways, because the lower published estimates are indeed 10 meters for Mapusaurus.
why such lower bounds for mapu? We have remains pointing at the species being larger then 10, 11, or even 12 meters
Bruhathkayosaurus and amphicoelias are troublesome, really. We don't have physical remains for either.
Also, i would steer clear of the sauropods only known by footprints. They are probably distorted by erosion, and other factors. But there are giants off of those, i just wouldn't take their estimates seriously.
For the largest sauropods we know, argentinosaurus, alamosaurus and another big one from china i can't quite put my finger on...they are the largest we know from any decent remains
Amphicoelias did exist. It's fossils are now lost. Most estmates run anywhere between 100-200 ft long and 100-200 tons. Bruhathkayosaurus is in the same range, though it's fossils may be those of trees.
Yeah. My estimates are
mapu 10-11.5 meters and 3-6 tons
giga 12.5-14 meters and 7-8.5 tons.
Agree to disagree. I estimate Mapusaurus at 10-12 meters and 3-5 tons and Giganotosaurus at 12-14 meters long and 6-8.5 tons.
Besides, this was about Alamsaurus, not Giganotosaurus/Mapusaurus.
Yes, but "could be larger" is exactly like the fragmentary tyrannosaurs, or spinosaurus....any dinosaur really.
The minimum The shaft dimensions of MCF-PVPH-108.145 are7.5 by 10 cm, which is 10% greater than those inthe holotype of Giganotosaurus. This suggests thatthe specimen represents the largest individual ofMapusaurus n. gen. from the bonebed.
I've never trusted Wikipedia scales. Wikipedia itself puts mapu at 33 feet and 3 tons.
wikipedia actually refers to the max size as being undefined but about as larger as giganotosaurus and > 10,2m. every other website states 12,2+m as a max lenght.
the publication initially describing mapu refers to it as larger than 12,2m. the theropod database which is a reliable source refers to the fibula as belonging to a 12,6m individual, and the pubic shaft could be bigger depending on the proportions of the animal. 33ft is no serious max size estimate. If i'm correct, it was the smaller individual found in the group of individuals that was unearthed. And the larger specimens aren't Fossilized freaks, the chances of us finding one of those are rather low.
Haha. that would be an awesome epic rap battle.

Giga

Mapu
there are the upper estimates for mapu compared to the average estimates of giga... As you can see giga appears a great deal more robust then the Mapusaurus.
I copied this from the link you gave me...
"This taxon was discovered in 1995, but only reported to Coria in 1997, when he and Currie examined the material. It was announced at that years Society of Vertebrate Paleontology meeting, and described briefly in an abstract (Coria and Currie, 1997). At the time, only the remains of an 8 meter long specimen were known, and it was identified as an adult. Coria and Currie returned to the site in 1998 to discover the presence of at least six individuals, some of which Currie said could be larger than Giganotosaurus’ holotype. The largest specimens are MCF-PVPH-145, 185 and 202, which are about 100-103% the size of the Giganotosaurus holotype."
Could be larger than the holotype.
you guys realize that the largest mapusaurus is dimensionally 10% larger than the giganotosaurus holotype, which means at least 2% larger than MUCPv-95, and should, assuming geometric similarity, be 1/3 heavier.
Theropod database on Mapusaurus
Also, i don't quite understand where you guys get the "more slender then giga" idea, only the smaller carcharodontosaurs were slenderly built, and Mapu isn't one of them
Yeah, I think your mistaken Carnosaur. Mapu seems to be much more slender then giga. And it doesn't seem as long ether.
Also, Mapusaurus lived after Saltosaurus and Aucasaurus(I believe)...

Are you sure Carnosaur? The largest Mapusaurus fossils indicate animals about 12 meters long and 5-6 tons. The 14 meter, 8 ton estimates are usually considered too high.
I always thought they meant "Carcharodontosaurs"
Mapu was probably larger then Giga, actually. Quite interesting
Yeah, your probably right. Seemed a bit big for a mapu.
Same. I'd assume it was supposed to be Giganotosaurus.
Yeah, I've seen it. The one thing I didn't get is why they called the gigas/mapus Carcharadontosaurus. Otherwise I really enjoyed it.
Did you ever see the episode of Dinosaur Planet, Alpha's Egg? Something tells me it'd appeal to you Hipho ;)
Here's my thinking. Hasn't really changed much...
http://www.jurassicworld-movie.com/community/forums/topic/28464
Omeisaurus, is cool as well. I don't kno where my love for Saltosaurus comes from. to me it seems like a combination between a ankylosaur and a titnosaur.
i always had a soft spot for saltasaurus. Omeisaurus is up there as well
Cool, I personally like Aregentinosaurus and Saltosaurus The most.
Oh, almost forgot. Alamosaurus is my favorite sauropod with Camarasaurus and Titanosaurus right behind it.
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