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Thanks s-rex for the informations anyways

which parts you do not agree?

Something that many people seem to take for granted when it comes to T-Rex's bite is that you can't just say that it would instantly kill anything that entered its mouth. For example, a Nile Crocodile is known for exerting upwards of 3,000 lbs of bite force. However, not every time that it latches to the neck of a wildebeast does it end up being killed, let alone even has its entire neck and vertebra crushed. These two animals are not close to being comparable in size.

Given that information, the highest bite force given to T-Rex by any credible resource is about 13,000 lbs, averaging around 8,000-10,000. Now, the size difference between a T-Rex and a Giganotosaurus is MUCH closer than the difference between a crocodile and a wildebeast, so why would it be easy for anybody to say that just because T-Rex has a strong bite means that it will instantly end the life of something that close to the same size, let alone something with a neck with a huge amount of muscle and a vertebra as thick as a telephone pole?

To take away more credibility from that claim would be that is that again with the size of Giganotosaurus's neck, T-Rex would have to open its mouth most of the way to even get its neck in it (I'll elaborate on the reason I mention this later). The maximum bite force of any animal is measured from one point within the jaw (Always the back, watch a video of animals getting bite force measured and you'll see this). This is because maximum bite pressure is always at the furthest back part of the jaw at one single area on one side, not the whole thing. With this being said and to finally explain the point made earlier, the T-Rex having its mouth open perhaps all the way to get the Giga's neck into it means that the back part of the mouth is not able to apply it's full amount of pressure with the tip of both the T-Rex's maxilla and mandible preventing it from doing because they arent able to meet. Plus, like I've already stated, total bite pressure is measured from one single point of an animal's mouth on a single side, so that means all of that 7,500-13,000 lbs is drastically lowered when the entire mouth is applied. It's like say having a 100 hp engine in a go-cart vs a 100 hp engine in a 2 ton car. The go-cart is going to be outrageously powerful while the car is going to be outrageously weak (the go-cart being the area where you measure maximum bite pressure and the car being the entire mouth). 

To add to this, the fact that the Rex's mouth would have to be open damn near all the way also detrimentally takes away leverage for it to inflict maximum damage. For instance, take a baby carrot and bite it in half. Pretty simple, huh? Now take a full grown carrot, of course has the same density and toughness of a baby carrot, and try to bite the fat end off. You have your mouth open almost all the way and you try your hardest but you only end up failing because your jaw strength only gets stronger as the space between them gets smaller, with your jaw being at its weakest at full gape.

^You can never beat the original

Being longer or taller really isn't any advantage when for both it is exceedingly negligible. this comes out to roughly being a 50/50.

On a side note, the largest theropods are ~4m tall at the top of the hips. ~6-8m that is often given as a height figure are not accurate

good idea

You know, if you'd ask, I'd say that one of the admins can unlock your old account for you.

Damn

Essentially what Linkin said is the truth, but i still am in touch with Raptor 401, he hasnt been on for a couple of months or so but the others such as Happy (Vader's original name) and RexFan havent been on for ages, they were gone before i made the new account.

Carnosaur21, Vader is not that active, ditto with Raptor-401, Rex Fan LEFT :(

Good fight, rooting for Sauro

Very cool though, makes me wonder if the old guys are still on here? i haven't had the time to look

Update:

10. Saurophaganax maximus

9. Giganotosaurus carolinii

8. Carcharodontosaurus saharicus

7. Utahraptor ostrommaysorum

6. Albertosaurus sarcophagus

5. Ceratosaurus nasicornis

4. Mapusaurus rosae

3. Dakotaraptor steini

2. Spinosaurus aegyptiacus

1. Tyrannosaurus rex

It's only been for the last few months however, haven't been active before then since 2014.

i forgot my old password for that account. good to see you're still around this place 

Wuuhhhhh??? Why the added 21 at the end tho lol? Nonetheless, it's thrilling to see a familiar name! (Yes, it's me)

Golly it has been ages since i've been here. I remember writing these. hi guys :P

^I did this so I could confirm that, although Maledictus is incredibly powerful--he isn't Nequit.

good fight, for me rex has more chances , it is way taller bigger and heavier and female rexes were bigger than males

interesting to hear the epenterias is slightly larger than the giganotosaurus holotype which is 3.5 meters tall but smaller that sue which is taller bigger and heavier than that giga ( 4 meters tall for sue)

You really did good points and I agree that tyrannosaurus is taller and bigger than giga.

in fact Sue is taller, bigger and heavier than the largest giganotosaurus to date

in my opinion it is 60/40 chances in favor for tyrannosaurus by the fact that it is taller , bigger, stronger bulkier, and with a more powerful bite.

BUT THIS IS THE MOST EPIC FIGHT I HAVE EVER READ!!!!!!

OMG i just love this, it is an amazing battle you did but some things are inaccurate, t rex is actually taller and bigger than giga which is just longer, t rex is heavier too so in my opinion this fight will finish with rex's victory as he bites giganotosaurus neck, breaking bones.

yes, t rex is bigger, look at Sue which is taller, bigger and hevaierthan the largest giganotosaurus

I mostly agree, you did really good points 

But I have still some doubts on carcharodontosaurus is larger than giganotosaurus, even a skull is larger, we have no carcharodontosaurus skeletons and it is more difficult to determine a size if you have no skeletons as reference, we just use imagination while looking at giganotosaurus.

The only wrong thing you said is that sue is longer than the giganotosaurus holotype, the height and size you showed is correct.

Sue is taller ( sue is 4 meters tall while giga holotype is 3.5 meters ), bigger and larger than giganotosaurus which was just longer .

The " giganotosaurus paratype " is just based on a piece of jaw, which is nothing to prove that it is larger than the holotype while Celeste the rex is based on a skullis larger than Sue's one.  Until we don't find any other bones i would exclude the giga paratype, with the holotype as the largest .

Sue is taller , bigger and heavier that the largest giganotosaurus 

Ahhh... The glory days of the Jurassic Park forums (when topics would actually get more than 50 comments... per day!). Almost brings a tear to my eye how everything has died down. Kinda cool to see that I'll be making the 150th comment on my own topic lol.

And good post :)

I agree with all informations you typed, but did you know that actually sue is larger than giganotosaurus holotype?
In fact sue is taller ( sue is almost 4 meters tall while giganotosaurus is around 3.5-8 meters tall) bigger and heavier as you mentioned.

I agree with all informations you typed, but did you know that actually sue is slightly taller and bigger than giganotosaurus holotype which is just a little bit longer?

I mostly agree, you did really good points and glad that you used credible sources! :)

But I have still some doubts on carcharodontosaurus is larger than giganotosaurus, even a skull is larger, we have no carcharodontosaurus skeletons and it is more difficult to determine a size if you have no skeletons as reference, we just use imagination while looking at giganotosaurus.

And I am glad that you agree that tyrannosaurus is bigger than giganotosaurus.

Sue was in fact is heavier by giganotosaurus holotype by around 200 kgs , Sue was also taller (Sue is almost 4 meters tall , 13 ft while giganotosaurus holotype is 3.5-9 meters tall , 11-12 ft) , bigger in mass and heavier , giganotosaurus is slightly longer.

The largest giganotosaurus estimated is just based on a jaw fragment , while the tyrannosaurus imperator that you mentioned is based on a complete skull which is larger than sue's one...well I believe that this tyrannosaurus and this giganotosaurus are around the same size.

Again good post! congrats ;)

Dinosaur hybrid

Name: Carnallosaurus

DNA : Carnotaurus,Allosaurus, Ankylosaurus

Diet : Carnivore

Size : 11.6m long

         4.2 m tall

         3 tonnes

Description : It has a exterior completely made of armor. The horns of this beast can pierce anything.It has a very horrific rage. It can reach speeds as the same as a fast car. It can summon other dinosaur to attack a target or to intimidate the opponent.Its teeth are bone crushing and the armor around the mouth adds to its bite force.Its eyes are just giant balls of glow.

^THE BADASSERY...IS TOO MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCHHHHHHHHHHHH

PM me the link you used for T. imperator's measurements.  I would like to discuss it with you.

XD

^Wikipedia (yes, I used it, it's more reliable. How do I know it's more reliable? I kept changing the name of Ostafrikasaurus for troll purposes and I got a warning from one of the mods)

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Thank you! And stay tuned for Lost in the End.

Awesome fight! Nequit came out the winner, as I had expected!

What is your source material for the T. imperator specimen?

Right SFK.