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Also no offense but your two dinosaurs are too anthropomorphize, personality wise.
Well I just don't think Carchardontosaurus could kill T. rex, I think just that Tyrannosaurus has more advantageous than disadvantageous. Stronger bite force, a more avian brain, possible more warm bloodedness, thicker teeth, and a robust body capable of surviving other tyrannosaurus bites would make it more than capable to win a fight against Carchardontosaurus.
@Xenotaris, you need not side against me because you like T. rex. I have not said anything against T. rex; I haven't called it weak or anything. I'm not telling people they can't think T. rex is cool, just don't trash other people's opinions because you disagree. And yes, Wikipedia has become much more reliable, but just because it is reliable, does not mean all sites showing discrepancies in data are incorrect. I have found a Wikipedia article with estimates of a possible bite force of 47,000 pounds. Other Wikipedia pages claim Tyrannosaurus had a bite force of 60,000 newtons, or 6.8 tonnes.
National Geographic's computer models suggest a bite force of 35,000 -57,000 newtons, or 7868.313 -12814.11 pounds of force.
Still very formidable jaws, but I think there is very little chance it is what GorillaGodzilla says it is.
First off, I never meant to insult or challenge your knowledge of T. rex. What I said was, "the impression you're giving me is that of an idiot who doesn't know anything about dinosaurs". What I meant was, your saying that T. rex was better than everyone in everything was an opinion, though you stated it as fact. That sounded very fanboy-ish, and that was what my comment was about. (Though I apologize if you took offense to that. )
Also, the "deep guttural dark side" was something you made up. I said the Carcharodontosaurus won for vengeance, and a family to protect. Male bears, for example have their asses handed to them by females half their size because the mother bears are fighting for their cubs. Anger overcoming physical advantages in battles is a rather common thing, actually. I understand that (maternal) instinct in bears and dinosaurs is very different, but essentially they are fighting for the same thing.
"Considering "an idiot who knows next to nothing about dinosaurs" is coming from a guy/girl who had a Carcharodontosaurus win because of its "deep, guttural dark side", is really funny. Haha. I'm laughing."
Trashing a topic because you didn't like the result? Not cool.
"Also "anky" does not beat all."
Wow. Poking fun at my username? Really not cool. That comment probably wasted more of your time than mine.
Mostly my underlined point is I did not intend to insult you. I wasn't calling you an idiot, I was reacting to what you were saying, the context of it, and what felt to me like forcing an opinion on other people.
Okay now for the Spinosaurinae:
Irritator, despite being a close relative to Spinosaurus, it lacks the signature spine of its cousin and it was a lot smaller. Its remains were discovered in Brazil.
Sigilmassasaurus (formerly Spinosaurus maroccanus) it unlike its larger cousin, Sigilmassasaurus lived primarily on land. Its remains were discovered in Morocco, Africa.
Spinosaurus, discovered in Egpyt, Africa. One of the most bizarre theropods, with its crocodilian head combined with its rather large sail-like protrusion of its spine and now as of 2014, a quadruped. It quite possibly lived a semi-aquatic lifestyle along side crocodilians who they may of competed for fish, on the land the Spinosaurus was rivaled by the allosauroid Carchardontosaurus.
Oxalaia, little can be said of this spinosaurid as its fossils have yet to be completed and it was discovered in Brazil.
Spinosaurids: My opinion on them is this, as an animal and part of dinosaur evolution I do find them fascinating since they seem to of been gradually evolving in to aquatic animals and had not the early late cretaceous waters been Anoxic (de-oxygeniated) during the Cenomanian-Turonian boundary event, we possibly would of seen fully aquatic dinosaurs. However as far as popular portrayal of the Spinosaurus goes, I despise the Jurassic Park III and Planet Dinosaur's depictions of the Spinosaurus.
Just to clarify: I have nothing against the real animal that is Spinosaurus aegyptiacus, Now on to Spinosauridae evolution.
Okay well Spinosaurids belong to the superfamily Megalosauroidea which were a group of stiffed tailed Theropods or tetanuran that reached to medium to large porportions before the Avetheropods (Bird-aligned tetanurans) such as Allosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, and the Haast's Eagle. But before we get in to the them ( i would like to get in to a more detailed with T. rex evolution later, I feel that my explanation was too brief), lets refocus on the Spinosaurids.
Most basal spinosaurids weren't that impressive, such as Ostafrikasaurus, It had a slight elongated snout and a slightly high spines but it closely resembled its megalosaurian cousins. however it is believed to be closer to the baryonyx-line of the Spinosaurids and then there is Siamosaurus who is another basal spinosaur but it had a longer snout than its cousin Ostafrikasaurus and its teeth resembled that of Spinosaurus. Sinopliosaurus, a Chinese basal Spinosaurus that was originally thought to be a pliosaurus that is only known for its collection of teeth which resembles Thailand's Siamosaurus, which quite possibly could be a synonyms. There is another possible basal spinosaurid that has yet to be named that's remains were found in Australia.
Okay now were don with the basal members time to move on to their more advanced relatives the subfamilies Baryonychinae and Spinosaurinae. Starting with the Baryonychinae:
Ichthyovenator, a basal baryonchina spinosaurid that's remains were discovered in Laos.
Baryonyx, one of the two most famous members of its subfamily. Discovered in England this Spinosaurid, it may have hunted near lakes or river deltas.
Suchomimus, the second of the two most famous member of its subfamily. Discovered in Niger Africa, this spinosaurid is larger than baryonyx and had a short pronounced spinal ridge.
Cristatusaurus, a baryonchinae spinosaurid that maybe be a Suchomimus or its own genus.
Suchosaurus, it maybe a Baryonyx.
Hey I know I will discuss Spinosaurid evolution
Well that's outside of Dinosauria Evolution but they are both Avemetatarsalia
Maybe the Pterosaurs?
Any Suggestions?
I thought he was better than Eric Kirby, I hate Eric Kirby.
Sorry, I will update soon. I'm trying to think which Dinosaur linage/clade to do next.
....he was an angsty teen lol...
No updates Xeno?
^My studies aren't singled out to Wikipedia. I have been to museums, read countless books, spoken with dinosaur specialists. When I say, that Tyrannosaurus rex is the most heavily evolved and powerful predator to have ever existed, it's true. You read for years on a sect of animals, then read on a single extinct animal for years--read about its ecosysytem, its prey, and its habitat--then tell me that I am an idiot who knows nothing about dinosaurs.
@GorillaGodzilla, Although we had our disagreements but I mostly agree with your statements. With the exception of Tyrannosaurus being the most heavily evolved, I think all dinosaurs living along side Tyrannosaurus were just as evolved as T. rex albeit in their own way. But I agree with you that Tyrannosaurus was the smartest out of the large Theropods and has a wicked bite force that is only rivaled by the American alligator.
@ankybeatsall2468, Wikipedia has became a reliable source of information with moderators constantly watching the edits and they have disabled alot of the edit buttons so your argument is invalid, sir!
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An idiot? An idiot who has been studying dinosaurs his entire life. Can tell you all about the keratin rich frill of Triceratops. The sexual dimorphism of tyrannosaurs. The evolution of beasts like Coelophysis into the end all be all dinosaurs like T.rex and Triceratops. An idiot who can tell you how the KT extinction wiped out life, EXACTLY how.
An idiot who can tell you how and why tyrannosaurs had feathers and lips. An imbecile, who can tell you the use of Parasaurolophus's trumpet. A lout, who can tell you why the sauropods started to die out towards the extinction. A useless nitwit, who KNOWS, based on EXTENSIVE knowledge--that Tyrannosaurus rex (written italics like all scientific names and the r in rex with a lower case) is the most powerful predator to have ever existed. Why? It was smart. Why? It could hear up to fifty miles away. Why? It had the most powerful bite-force of all terrestrial beasts. Why? It could smell up to five miles away. Why? Because it hunted in packs. Why? Because its the mother******* T.rex.
Also "anky" does not beat all. By anky I'm sure you mean, Ankylosaurus? No? Yes? Its spiked shell, and keratin rich fused bone club on the end of its tail is a worthy adversary, but it was hunted and killed by the likes of Tyrannosaurus and Dakotaraptor. It may have been rare, but it did happen. The animals that lived with it were built to kill all of their prey. Considering "an idiot who knows next to nothing about dinosaurs" is coming from a guy/girl who had a Carcharodontosaurus win because of its "deep, guttural dark side", is really funny. Haha. I'm laughing.
But what do I know? I'm an idiot, who knows nothing about dinosaurs and adores T.rex because "everyone else does".
"it is the strongest, smartest, and most heavily evolved of all the dinosaurs..Lol..No other land predator can legitimately match it. IT HAD A BITE-FORCE OF UP TO FIFTY-THOUSAND POUNDS"
I didn't want to say this before, but the impression you're giving me is that of an idiot who doesn't know anything about dinosaurs and just likes t rex 'cause everyone else does.
Wikipedia? Seriously? Wikipedia is a site where anyone can post whatever random bullsh!t they want and hope for people to believe it. T rex doesn't win cause its the best, it wins because people want it to be the best so they hype up stats and tell people its better than their favourite dinosaurs.
I despised Zach from JW
My list changed back to:
10) Utahraptor Ostrommaysorum
9) Torvosaurus Gurneyi
8) Saurophaganax Maximus
7) Carcharodontosaurus Saharicus
6) Giganotosaurus Carolinii
5) Carnotaurus Sastrei
4) Ceratosaurus Nasicornis
3) Dakotaraptor Steini
2) Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus
1) Tyrannosaurus Rex
and Xenotaris nice list! I was also going to put every other dinosaur as an honourable mention but then I realised we could only have five...
Gojirasaurus is my favourite Triassic dinosaur
I guess this means there will be more kids in Jurassic World 2... I just hope the plot doesn't focus on this Lucy girl. Or if it does, I hope at the very least she can act.
Hey it might of had competition with another large coelophysoid Liliensternus. although my Dilophosaurus is bigger but Dilophosaurus is an Early Jurassic Theropod with the body of a Late Triassic Theropod. Dilophosaurus a while back was considered to be a Coelophysoid before being placed in its own clade Dilophosauridae.
Yup! I love Gojirasaurus because as a Coelophysoid it is HUGE!! Like Godzilla as you see in my profile pic.
Ah Gojirasaurus, a rather large Coelophysoid. Hey its not too distant from my favorite dinosaur, Dilophosaurus.
Yeah! My favorite Triassic dinosaur is Gojirasaurus quayi! For the Jurassic i must say Allosaurus and finally for the Cretaceous period Spinosaurus who's also my favorite dinosaur. I also like Styracosaurus and Brachiosaurs.
As much as I love Jurassic-Cretaceous dinosaurs, I find earlier Triassic Dinosaurs more fascinating because of their more basal routes and I'm fascinated with early dinosaur evolution. I know its easier to love Utahraptor, Tyrannosaurus, Velociraptor, Triceratops, Apatosaurus, Parasaurolophus, Ankylosaurus, Stegosaurus, Brachiosaurus, or even Spinosaurus but Triassic dinosaurs were like the great grand parents of the more famous dinosaur clades.
I will contact Lord Tyrant and maybe Raptor-401.
Interesting! I love this post we should gather Dinosaur fans here.
Now I would like to move on to Tyrannosaurus evolution. The early basal Tyrannosauroids belong to a subclade called Proceratosaurids it was called this back when scientists used to think they were primitive ceratosauruses. Now Proceratosaurids have been reclassified as early Tyrannnosauroids rather than basal Ceratosaurids. Tyrannosauroids are a clade of animals that include basal Tyrannosauroids like Dilong and Guanlong, as well as the advanced Tyrannosauroids, the ever popular Tyrannosaurids with Tyrannosaurus rex as its crowning member.
Now early Tyrannosauroids like Dilong and Guanlong may have been somewhat raptor-like but only because they are both Coelurosaurians and they occupied a similar niche to larger dromaeosaurids but unlike the later dromaoesaurids, these basal tyrannosauroids lacked flight feathers as they were only covered in protofeathers and unlike the latter dromaoesaurids they couldn't glide or had power flight; a trait that defines paravians such as Dromaoesaurids, Troodontids, and Avians but not the Tyrannosauroids.
Other basal Tyrannosauroids include Juratyrant, Proceratosaurus, Sinotyrannus, and Yutyrannus. Later we start seeing more advanced Tyrannsauroids such as Eotyrannus, Raptorex, Bagaraatan, Alectrosaurus, Appalachiosaurus, and Alioramus before proper Tyrannosaurids make an appearance.
Now we are on to the Tyrannosaurids, we have the basal Gorgosaurus and Albertosaurus and the more advanced Tyrannosaurians such as Daspletosaurus, Teratophoneus, Bistahieversor, Lythronax, Tarbosaurus, Zhuchengtyrannus, and finally Tyrannosaurus.
Chickens being a member of the modern bird clade/group shares a close common ancestor (its closests relative) to Dromaosaurids (Raptors) and Troodons. The Chicken does not share a common ancestor with Tyrannosaurids, it does share a distant common ancestor with Tyrannosauroids but so do all Coelurosaurians.







