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DeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
I think Spino could swim, if it is a fish eater, then it would almost certainly have to. It probably swam by swinging its tail back and forth, at the base of the tail so the rest retains tension.
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
DinoFights, you said that yang was 36 feet long and 6 tons. He's the second biggest competitor in the fight. If you are going to replace Suchomimus, then he'd be the biggest. Or at least the longest.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
I'll still root for Daspletosaurus
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ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Daspletosaurus and Yangchuanosaurus are certainly both great competitors. But they face Therizinosaurus, Cristatusaurus and Veterupristisaurus, all of which rival or exceed them in size...
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
I'm still rooting for Yangchuanosaurus, but in the next fight, Das. He's one of my favorite dinosaurs. I seem to have a lot of favorites.
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
I'm not sure on swimming. It's dangerous for an animal that spent most of its time in water to not be able to swim.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
If theropods did not swim, then they would be unlike every other group of land dwelling animals.
ReplyDinosaur.FanaticDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
I'm with you all the way DinoFights. Spino is not a lean, light predator, it is extremely heavy. This, however, does not mean that Spino couldn't bear it's own weight. Spino had strong, muscular legs. I am personally of the mindset that Spino did not actually swim, and I don't think ANY theropods were built to swim. However, I do think Spino spent a good amount of time standing in rivers, catching fish and crocs with it's long snout.
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
Well yeah, but this is a Spino discussion. If the Rex in that picture (the biggest known) is 8-10 tons, then that Spino is utterly massive.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Don't get me wrong, the JP Rex roar was awesome and jaw dropping. But that Daspletosaurus roar was very impressive, haha
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Indeed. I like the JP Rex roar.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
Eh, I see a 40 ft Rex weighing at least 8 tons, maybe 9.
For the record I did not even bring up Spinosaurus in that comment ;)
Besides, Rex and Spino have different proportions and muscle masses. I was just mentioning that to remind people that Tyrannosaurus may be heavier than thought ;)
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
That would make Spino even heavier over 16 t.
But I don't take that figure, it's ridiculous. Sue would have to look like this
[img]http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/330/6/b/tyrannosaurus_upper_limit_size_based_on_ucmp137538_by_gunz103-d5m9psf.jpg[/img]
That's a bipedal pig with big teeth and a long tail.
This
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Is more accurate, in my opinion.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Das is among my favorite dinosaurs. Once I saw Little Das' Hunt on Dinosaur Planet, I was hooked.
PS- The roar they gave the Daspletosaurus was awesome. Probably my favorite dinosaur roar. I like it a little more than the JP Rex roar. Surprising right? haha
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Das seems to be everyone's favorite in season 2...
ReplyLord VaderDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Good fight, I'm rooting for Das.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
Keep in mind Sue's weight has been recently upgraded to 9-10 tons ;)
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
It isn't as thick because it sacrificed bulk for speed, agility, flexibility and a well balanced body, all things you need when avoiding tail whips and stomps from a 100+ foot Argentinosaurus without missing a chance at an attack.
What I'm saying is it makes no sense that one spinosaur would be thin when the rest are robust. It also happens to be the most land based and that would be a dangerous world for an animal under 12 tons, being filled with multiple species of 40+ foot giants like Carcharodontosaurus, Sauroniops, Bahariasaurus, Saurophagus (may be late jurassic actually) and even Sarcosuchus. The area Spinosaurus lived in was a lush oceany habitat with rivers and other bodies of water nearby and all dinosaurs there are adapted for ichthyophagy, excluding carcharodontosaurs and Bahariasaurus which may have ate the crocodiles or other dinosaurs.
So it stands to say that Spinosaurus spent a lot of time in water, which relieved the weight, and when on land the ridge may have had something to do with easing the weight because if you noticed, the bigger a spinosaur is, the bigger its ridge. Also, they have long arms and may have walked quadrupedally on occasion (unlikely, IMO. It would have made their claws dull) but overall I think 12.5 t is the minimum. I say 15 for MSNM v4047, but 12.5 seems reasonable. Factoring in the ridge I say 13 is good.
Not what a 17 meter Tyrannosaurus or Giganotosaurus would weigh (17 and 15-16, respectively)
Here's Spino compared to Sue
[img]http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/473/overheadskeletal.jpg[/img]
The top figure would have to be as thin as the middle to be under 12 t.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
Whoa, Delta just went really scientific on us, haha.
I'm not even going to say anything about the whole Spinosaurus weight debate. We all know what I'd say ;)
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
There is a difference between short bursts and always on your back legs. A young diplodocus doesn't really count for much, its relly light anyways. Think of it differently. How come a Giganotosaurus isn't as thick as a T. rex? It could give it more protection against sauropod tails, and it probably doesn't jump on its prey either. If it was as thick as a T. rex, then it would be around ten tons, which no biped is thought to get too. Why? Because its just to heavy for two legs to carry. Look at the smaller dinosaurs. Most of them run faster than the big ones, and they have much smaller legs to. They are comparatively lighter, but wouldn't that mean less muscule. Yes, but the strength: weight ratio of the smaller and lighter dinosaurs is much higher than the strength:weight ratio of the bigger dinosaurs.
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
Not necessarily. The "it has to be light" argument is based off of a hypothetical limit that isn't confirmed. Refer to the juvenile diplodocid and alleged new adult Camarasaurus footprints suggesting it ran on two legs for a good distance and Camarasaurus weighed at least 25 tons, possibly up to 45.
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
I'm sayian that Spino has to be light, its not about T. rex at all. That's another discussion.
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
Yeah because it makes Spino sound inferior.
ReplyDinoFightsDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Yeah, or otherwise we would have one dinosaur left without a fight due to the uneven number of fights in round 1.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
So the next fight is a 3 way battle eh? Interesting. Rooting for Daspletosaurus...
[img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130412140054/planetdinosaur/images/a/a9/Daspletosaurus.png[/img]
ReplyDinosaur.FanaticDinosaurs ForumBad news for SpinoSep 8, 2013
If there's any mention of a Spinosaur being out-bested by a Tyrannosaur, or a statement that Spino can't support itself on two legs, that's basically recipe for a Rex/ Spino debate, yes?
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumChapter 2Sep 8, 2013
On a second note, have you checked out my story's yet?
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumAlamosaurus: A True GiantSep 8, 2013
I can agree with that. Its pretty big, no wonder Giganotosaurus hunted in large packs. It can't take one of those giants down without one.
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumChapter 2Sep 8, 2013
Being swallowed alive? Ow, that has got to hurt. Great job. This story is pretty good.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumAlamosaurus: A True GiantSep 8, 2013
I usually put Argentinosaurus at 120 ft long and 110 tons. But that's just me.
ReplyDeltadromeusDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Awesome fight. Daspletosaurus, you better watch out, Therizinosaurus is pretty nasty and has made a name for himself.
ReplyRex Fan 684Dinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
Good fight. Any predator would have trouble bringing down a Therizinosaurus. A carnivore would have to comparable to the Therizinosaurus in size, if not larger.
ReplyDinosaur.FanaticDinosaurs ForumTherizinosaurus vs AppalachiosaurusSep 8, 2013
That was SO cool! Great fight! :D
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