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Gojira2k debates with scfiking25

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Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusNov-12-2014 12:09 PM

Ok this is the third week of the debate competition.

gojira2k vs scifiking.

2k has old spino and 25 has new spino.

on week. Begin!!!!!!

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Huge-Ben

MemberTriceratopsNov-12-2014 12:14 PM

Nevermind......-_-

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Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-12-2014 12:59 PM

Will post my debate later when I can post pictures.

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusNov-12-2014 1:10 PM

Well, I'm screwed... Ah well, here I go.

 

Spinosaurus was used to the water, and spent most of its time there. Hunting large fish and other aquatic animals, it made a good living in the harsh, carnivore-filled landscape. It most likely came up to the shore quite a bit, to sleep, eat large meals, breed, and move to another body of water.

Spinosaurus was pretty large (however, I believe the limbs were longer than shown in the picture), and would've put up a great fight against other carnivores.

 

Spinosaurus was able to walk bipedally, and this would greatly help in a fight.

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Allotitan

MemberCompsognathusNov-12-2014 1:18 PM

Interesting topic, wonder which week I'm in? This seems to be a tough one though

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Raptor-401

MemberAllosaurusNov-12-2014 2:41 PM

This gonna be entertaining (In a good, positive way). Interesting points will be made, I think.

IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-12-2014 10:56 PM

Oh, this should be very neat! I can't wait to see some of the counterpoints and data! :)

UCMP 118742

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 4:26 AM

I'm so tempted to say something about this one :3

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Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 12:44 PM

Spinosaurus Aegypticus (1915-2014) (For this debate, I will be using the Planet Dinosaurus version as an example.) (I amy use some examples that might have some contreversy to this version. Please don’t get upset or get mad over what I say here.)

 

     Spinosaurus was a massive beast. At 50-60 feet long, 16 feet tall (22 feet to top of sail), and 9 tons, it was the largest predatory dinosaur to walk the earth. It lived in present-day Egypt. It had a long crocodile-like head, long arms with three long, sharp claws on each hand, and a tall 6-foot spine on it’s back.

     It was originally discovered in 1915, by paleontologist Ernst Stromer. When he found the bones, he theorized that it stood upright, such as the original version of T-rex was. The remains were put on display in a museum in Munich. During WWII the bones were destroyed. All that remained were the pictures and drawings done by Stromer.

     It was originally thought to feed on massive sauropods or hadrosaurs, but its jaws were more specialized for catching fish. Its cone-shaped teeth were perfect for catching and holding a fish, the long claws were used to rip up the fish.

     A similar Spinosaur, Suchomimus, was found in Egypt as well. It was used to recreate Spinosaurus, as well as Baryonyx, another Spinosaur, and crocodiles.

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 12:57 PM

@ UCMP You can't, this goes to EVERYONE except for the two that are debating:)

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusNov-13-2014 3:37 PM

The Spinosaurus was the king of its realm, but it hunted fish, allowing it to coexist with the mighty Carcharodontosaurus with little fighting. However, Spinosaurus was very slender and agile, allowing it to outmanuver attacks, and it could easily win a battle if it led its opponent to water. Rearing up on its hind legs, it could kill its enemies in more ways than one.

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 4:09 PM

But Spinosaurus was a much better fighter. Being on to legs, and not four gave it the better advantage. 2014 Spino probably couldn't reer up for long. It was too top heavy. It would have a lot of back pain if it tryed to stay that way. 1915-2013 Spino was already reered up, making it much bigger, height-wise and more intimidating. It could give a good slash before 2014 could. And could probably take Carcharodontosaurus, with its claws. I'm not saying he could kill him in one swipe, but could do some serious damage.

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Carnosaur

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 5:21 PM
likin' this. TK, outta curiosity, when do you have me slated to go?

Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusNov-13-2014 5:46 PM

True, but how about this scenario:

 

Old Spino bends over to bite New Spino's neck, but New Spino outmanuvers and bites Old Spino's neck. Or what about if they got in the water, which New Spino is more adapted to? Maybe New Spino can use its smaller size to its advantage.

 

[Also, I think I'm doing pretty good for a pretty one-sided debate. :)]

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Tyrant king

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 6:01 PM

Man! I want tk say so much in this debate but I can't.

carno, I won't tell............

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 6:29 PM

But, the new Spino can still do pretty well in the water. He could definitely give him a run for his money. Here's the answer to the first scenario:

The New Spino has a grip on the Old Spino's neck. He's struggling to get free. He takes his long claws and slashes him in the neck and he lets go.

Here is the answer to the second scenario:

Both Spinos are in the water. They are slowly circling each other in the water. The New One is adapted to water, but so is the Old One. The New One swims towards the Old One, but the Old One quickly heads to shore. The New Spino grabs the Old One's tail and starts to pull him towards the water. The Old One turns around and slashes the Old One, who then lets go. The Old One takes this advantage and bites the New One and kills him by piercing his windpipe.

 

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-13-2014 7:08 PM

This is extremely fun! I like the cordiality and intelligent by-play evidenced by both speakers - very excellent! :)

Raptor-401

MemberAllosaurusNov-13-2014 9:16 PM

Wow, this is very fun to read so far, guys!!! When I come back from my weekend vacation I'll make sure to see who won!!!

IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-13-2014 9:24 PM

It's actually fun to debate like this.

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-14-2014 2:55 AM

GOJIRA2K and SCI-FI KING25 - You're both doing a fantastic job! Keep it up! :)

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusNov-14-2014 1:00 PM

True, but New Spino is smaller, and could ambush (slightly) better, and it could swim faster. It could swim up and attack the Old Spino like a crocodile. (I understand the sail would've been a disdvantage, but Old Spino could be angered by this if it was Old Spino's territory)

 

 

 

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-14-2014 6:56 PM

True, but Old Spino could do the same. Old Spino, being more similar to T-Rex, could deal more damage quicker. New Spino's claws being on the ground, helping him, and Old Spino's claws being in the air, ready to strike could deal faster. As New Spino is dragging him in the water, he could slash him and, again, making him let go.

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusNov-15-2014 6:04 PM

I don't think Spino could bend at those angles to turn around and attack while being held on to

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-15-2014 6:52 PM

But he might have been able to at least pull him out of the water. On land he could have won against New Spino. Also it depends on how long the tail was. If he had a long tail he might have been able to bend at that angle.

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusNov-16-2014 6:03 AM

True, yet New Spino's tail was almost as long as its body

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-16-2014 9:53 AM

True, New Spino Probably could do that. That's not to say Old Spino couldn't either. Even in the water Old Spino still has a good chance to win,

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-19-2014 6:34 AM

The week of debating is now over. Who do you guys think won?

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusNov-19-2014 1:37 PM

I probably can't vote, but I'd say that you won. :)

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-19-2014 3:23 PM

I don't know Sci-Fi, you put a good fight.

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexNov-20-2014 4:01 AM

GOJIRA2K and SCI-FI KING25 - As the deisgnated judge of this exceptionally well-fought debate, after reading the scenarios you gentlemen prensented multiple times, I hereby declare what is known as a Two-Lead Tie! In accordance with the Cambridge Judiciary Scale, both participants within this debate presented arguments that were both accessible to the audience and well-rounded in scope. Taking into account all factors, GOJIRA2K earned an overall rating of 8.7 while SCI-FI KING25 also managed a rating of 8.7. Based on ad-hoc percentage scaling, both participants matched one-another's points and counter-points with above average to excellent articulation. As such, the rules demand that I declare an even draw!

    Absolutely fantastic work! :)

Gojira2K

MemberCompsognathusNov-20-2014 5:57 AM

^I will most definitely take this!

"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self." - Ernest Hemingway.

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