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Top 10 largest theropods

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MemberCompsognathusSeptember 27, 201421758 Views79 Replies

I've done one of these in the past, but it's time for a revision regarding new material that has come to light recently

So, without further adue, let us begin..

10. Torvosaurus Gurneyi

The newest species of megalosaur to date, Torvosaurus Gurneyi is indeed a monster. Though not the twelve meter, 6-7 ton animal it was thought to be based on a 160 cm maxilla, T. gurneyi is still an immense animal. Tipping the scales at 3.5 tons at average and a staggering 5 tons as a maximum, Torvosaurus has earned its place on this list

9. Allosaurus Amplexus

A giant species of Allosaur that was discovered in the 90's, this animal is commonly known as "Epanterias" amplexus. Most paleontologists consider this a nomen dubium, as it appears to just be a rather large species of Allosaurus. Just how big? well, scaling off of "Big Al"(Allosaurus Fragilis) yields ~14meters, 7 tons. But, this figure is a bit baseless and a more safe size estimation should be based off of the DINO allosaurids.. The only size figures given (apparently Stovall´s estimates) published anywhere are found below:
lenght of 42ft (=12.80m), 6.25 tons(6.25 tonnes), height of 16ft (=4.88m in kangaroo pose) a gape of 4ft (1.22m) six inch (=15.2cm) teeth and eleven inch (27.8cm) foreclaws. By comparison Allosaurus was stated to reach only up to 29ft; 2 tons in weight

8. Acrocanthosaurus Atokensis

Slightly smaller then its later gigantic relatives, Acrocanthosaurus is still not an animal you'd want to meet in a dark alley. The largest individual, affectionately known as "fran" was an 11 meter, 6.65 ton beast. Slightly smaller individuals have been unearthed, though they are known fromless complete remains. Estimates for these two range from 10.5-11 meters TBL; 4-6 tons

7.  Therizinosaurus Cheloniformis

The only plant eating theropod on this list, Therizinosaurus is a massive animal. Quite capable of self defense as well, sporting claws that could measure as much as 6 ft. It's appearance is quite bizarre- almost a potbellied, sluggish creature in overall stature. Perhaps this is due to its immense weight; T. cheoniformis tipped the scales at ~5.5 - 6 tons in TBW. Being so large almost certainly kept it safe from most predators - though the claws surely helped.

6. Tyrannotitan Chubutensis

Is it really a suprise most of this list comprises of Carcharodontosaurs? They were massive creatures, and Tyrannotitan was no exception. In Giganotosauridae - the subfamily that includes Giganotosaurus and MApusaurus; two other large bodied Theropods, Tyrannotitan is estimated to measure 12.5-13 meters in length, and, basing off of close relatives, would weigh in the ball park of 5-7 tons.

5. Carcharodontosaurus Saharicus

Ol' Carcharodontosaurus has been kicked around quite a bit on this list. Old estimates have stated it to be anywhere from 6-20 tons in weight, and well they were right-but in a way they probably didn't expect. Carcharodontosaurus appears to be overall more slender then previously thought, and a good deal longer. An overall TBL of 45-48 feet in length, but a meager 5-7 tons in weight have brought this Carcharodontosaur down slightly on this list, but still up there pretty high.

4. Edmarka Rex

The second megalosaur to enter the Fray, Bakker et al. was impressed with the size of Edmarka, noting that it "would rival T. rex in total length," and viewing this approximate size as "a natural ceiling for dinosaurian meat-eaters." Megalosaurs are very heavily built creatures. one "rivaling Tyrannosaurus in length' would be a very sizeable creature.Scaling up a 9 meter T. Tanneri to ~12 meters yields roughly 6.67 tons in weight - on par with the average Tyrannosaurus individual. It is distinguishable from T. Tanneri from several skeletal differences.

3. Giganotosaurus Carolinii

Giganotosaurus has always been in the top five largest predatory dinosaurs. It too has been kicked around though, and recent studies conducted in this decade have shown us something staggering. The holotype, once hailed as a 13 meter animal, has been shrunk down to 12.4 meters in length - a "Sue" sized animal. The second individua, based on scant skull remains, was said to be ~10% larger then the holotype. That would put it at 13.2 meters in length, with a proposed body weight of 7.5-8 tons. It's no wonder Giganotosaurus is still onc of the largest predators to ever walk our earth.

2. Tyrannosaurus Rex

One of the first large bodied predatory dinosaurs ever discovered, Tyrannosaurus has lways been heralded as the largest to ever walk our earth. However, several discovereies in the last twenty years have shown us something rather different. Have no fear- as you can see T. rex is still high up on this list. The largest individual to date, "Celeste" measured an impressive 13 meters in length, and weighed in at 8.5-9.5 tons in weight."Sue" once regarded the largest, measures 12.2 meters in length and weighs in at 7.4- 8 tons.

1. Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus

WHAT?!!you may be asking yourselves, and as i'm suspecting, i'm gonna have to support the hell out of this one to assure you Spinosaurus is still the largest predatory dinosaur to date. The new reconstruction courtesy of PAul Sereno's new finds suggests a semi quadrupedal gait. So, before i start in let me tell you that this new posture gives more surface area for weight to be distributed on S. Aegyptiacus' body. As for 3 ton estimates thrown around on this site because of the new finds, i submit to you ;BS. That's the weight that Sereno et. al gave for Suchomimus Tenerensis - an 11 meter spinosaur. Simple scaling yields ~ 12 tons for S. Aegyptiacus. A semi quadrupedal stance offers the possibility that Spino could weigh substantially more - not less. in fact, It would weigh 50- 75% more then "Sue". That would yield ~ 10-12 tons, sound familiar? So it is this new reconstruction that cements Spinosaurus as the largest terrestrial predator we have found to date.

 

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Yeah, Tyrant's right on this one. A lion isn't exactly 17 feet long, is it? And you should've scaled up a gharial, whose build is much more slender and Spino-like than a Nile or Saltwater crocs. That would lead to a 6.85 ton croc. So adding the extra weight Spino was packing, and that is an 8-9 ton animal.

 

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So are you thinking they look like giant bipedal gahrials? Gahrials are very slender and have pencil thin jaws. spinosaurus did not have jaws THAT thin. I think it would have been bulky, not as bulky as say a croc but as bulky as a alligator.

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I never said jaws, did I? I said build. As in the build was very thin overall. The jaw ends (maxilla and premaxilla) were actually similar to gharials, and I have seen spinosaur skull replicas where I work, so don't even try me there. However, the skull base was more caiman like. Definitely not Alligator like, who have stronger bites and are more robust than even Nile Crocodiles. So, the caiman doesn't have robust, heavily built jaws like Crocs or Alligators, but their jaws are more robust than gharials. But Spinosaurus definitely were not Nile crocodile robust.

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when you say ends do you mean the tips. Cause I was talking about the whole jaws. They were not bulky like crocs or gators but hy hey were bulkier then gahrials.

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The actual snout. You have to admit there is a resemblance. The entire skull, no, but the snouts, yes.

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Yes, it does resemble a gahrial. But the body/skull doesn't.

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Saltwater croc male average: 4.3 meters; 550 lbs

African Lion male Average: 1.86 meters; 386 lbs

Saltwater croc male maximum: 6.7 meters; 1.2 tons

African male lion maximum: 2.4 meters; 418 lbs

African lions are more robust at parity sizes, yet the Crocodile weighs more.  and at maximum sizes, it completely blows the lion out of the water. And that's simply due in part to it's semiaquatic adaptations, such as the lacking of marrow cavities in the bones, Densely packed bones, etc.

Saltwater crocs are a good analogy for Spinosaurus because of jaw morphology and the "barrel chest" they're given with their recurved ribs. But i'll bite..

the average male gharial( false gharial as well) is ~2.8 meters in length, and has a weight of 1,100 lbs, which is large by crocodilian standards.

Your upscaling is a little bit off, not by much, but still there's a percentage of error there.

Scaling the 2.8 meter male False Gharial yields ~7.389 tons(7.4 rounding up) You appear to be underestimating the size of this gharial species. As for your caiman comparison..

Caiman species, despite common belief, can be quite large. Spectacled caiman average 2.5meters in length...and a maximum length for a big male would be 3.2 meters. The Black caiman, the largest species alive today, rivals the size of the Saltwater crocodile, with big adults easily surpassing 5 meters. So that croc upscaling i did up there ^ would be rather similar.

So, even with that small discrepancy, A spinosaurus of equal size would weigh in the ballpark of 9-11 tons.

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Wich is were I normally see it.

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Carnosaur,

 

You need to revise a bit your list. Maganuco has actually estimated the new, adult Spinosaurus at 6-7 tonnes. So Spinosaurus is no longer the very biggest but clearly still one of the biggest.

 

I dont think Celeste has been scientifically estimated in size.

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My point is they DID NOT have a barrel chest. That's what I'm saying. And I'm not saying to size off of caimans, I was telling him the the skull base is similar. As for the gharial reference, around the same size as I was going off of averages not maximums. I work at our state AZA approved zoo. (along with at the dinosaur museum here. Biggest dinosaur museum in North America.) However, it still is 7-8 tons, not 9-11. The only "heavy part of Spinosaurus was its very dense legs and hips, which (according to my calculations) contribute for about a fifth the total weight. Still not Tyrannosaur sized, I'm afraid. 

 

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@KOM no, i don't need to revise my list. provide a link? don't remember Magnuco ever saying spino was 6-7 tons. there's nothing like a paper downsizing spino. why? because the 'official' description hasn't been released yet. Ibraheim et. al only described a change in overall body plan; it doesn't serve as evidence of downsizing. in fact, i've posted it here before... @PK, when did being barrel chested= being heavier? your tyrannosaurs of giant size are undescribed atm, unless you want to post info? along with your calculations..just curious.. show me a paper downsizing spinosaurus, because no one here has shown anything other then their opinion.

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There isn't any 13 m T.rex, Celeste is undescribed, the largest is still 12,3 meters long.

 

 

I think you missed Mapusaurus.

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damn it i did -.- it's my calculation based on isometric scaling. this, my friend, is your 9 ton T.rex ;)

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Firstly, it'z not my 9 t T.rex, it's Hutchinson's if anything, plus, I said 'a 8-9 t range', wich means that Sue is between 8 and 9 t , like Hartman's 8400 kg, not 9 t. A 13 m T.rex would be over 9 t, but simply there is no 13 m T.rex.

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apparently you didn't read that its my calculation. until you refute it, there's technically a 13 m rex(13.16 based on D. torosus). secondly, your statement contradicts itself. nuff said. S. hartman gave a weight of 8.2 tons. no where does he state “a range of 8-9 tons. even he agrees hutchisons' models have too much of a BMI. if you wanna get technical, the weight range for sue is 4.5 tons(GSP years ago) and 9.5 tons.(hutchisons' model) S. hartmans estimate fits nicely in between there.

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You missed my point again. That was just an example. I said 8-9 t because the margin of error can be great, thus, rather than saying that it was 8,4 t, I said 8-9 t-ish. For example, masses for MUPCv-ch1 rage from 6,4 to 7,4 t, according to Hartman, so a 1 t range is more wise than saying that an excint animal was, for example, 8,4 t. 

 

Wich specimen is your 13 m T.rex? I don't recall anything about it. 

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i took note of your point. however, that's your claim & not Hartman's. provide a link proving otherwise, and i'll drop the matter. he placed the singular figure of 8400kg. what's this margin of error in which you speak, anyway. read the damn OP. i mentioned it in the tyrannosaurus section... Celeste= C. rex, horner's discovery in 2000. i use D. torosus as i'm a bit weary of the individual variation in T. rex.

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As I've already said, Celeste is undescribed, so it's unreliable, while animals like MUPCv-95 and SMG din-1 are described. 

I asked it you because I said in the first post that Celeste is unreliable, the you said "there is actually a 13 m T.rex", and I thought you were talking about another specimen.

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for the 3rd time now, it's my calculation. bone lengths have been noted, and that's what i used. fully aware it hasn't been officially described yet.

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That's your calculation, then it isn't official. It's fine for me.

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