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Thanks for quoting that AL, and yes, we can see this in all aspects of todays ecosytems.

And yes, all we have to do is look at the Savannahs of Africa to know this plays a huge role in how well an animal can defend itself from other species. And in all likely hood, Today's Africa is probably very similar to Africa 68 mya, predators in constant conflict; i mean challenging other species for a kill, offing the young to avoid competition - or just offing one unfortunate enough to wander by. this makes Predatory species very keen on combative measures.

The amount of other species of carnivores of similar size in its ecosystem really does play a factor as to how its combat/defensive part of its life is determined.

 oh yes totally does

Yes, I can also imagine, as I stated earlier, it staying in the water, waiting for vulnerable prey to get a drink of water, then launching itself forward, maybe claming it's head over the victims head. Then maybe slam it against the ground, heck maybe even try drowning it.

In all likely hood yes, It probably stood in the water like a giant heron from  while stalking fish, keeping still and zeroing in on its target. It's jaws are fully capable of hoisting a 2/ 3 meter Onchopristis clear out of the water and onto the bank, as portrayed in Planet Dinosaur

The amount of other species of carnivores of similar size in its ecosystem really does play a factor as to how its combat/defensive part of its life is determined.

Well I believe Spino's attack could have mainly focused on the element of surprise.

As long as it has to do with Spinosaurus AND it lifestyle, there shall be no harm done ;)

We could really go any where with this topic, especially interspecific and Intraspecific conflict (fighting within a species. fighting other species)

Spinosaurus had a menagerie of large predators in its time period, That's kind of an indicator it would be well accustomed to conflict, despite people claiming it would simply avoid the other carnivores

And yet Carno, there will still be people to dispute that, but im in no control of that, and nobody should because its their opinion. But if people try their best to make your claims look stupid, thats the time to act.

Back guys.

Why don't we talk about Spinosaur Hunting tactics? OF course, on S-Rex's decision, this is his discussion.

Nice.

For those who doubt Spinosaurids hunted terrestrial prey:

The remains of a juvenile Iguanodon were found fossilized in the stomach cavity of Baryonyx Walkeri, whether it was scavenged or killed by the heavy clawed Spinosaur is up for interpretation. But, it does absolutely point to the fact that Spinosaurs weren't limited to the water.

A pterosaur vertebrate was found in i think 2010 with a Spinosaur tooth imbedded in it, the mystery tooth came from either Angaturama or Irritator - which may be synonymous with each other, and what's more is the wound iddn't appear to heal, so either the Spinosaur killed the batlike creature, or it scavenged it. Either way, it's once more evidence that Spinosaurs weren't the strictly Piscivorious creatures they were thought to be twenty years ago

I say allo wins cause more agile and more useable arms and it could use gatchet bite. Odds 60-40 allo.

I agree.

With my thoughts, i think the larger the animal, the more robust it is in general and in terms of size, but thats just me.

SPINOSAURUS RULZ!!!!!!!!!!

Getting back on topic, I'd like to address the "Spinosaurs are lightly built" claim brought up earlier; Most of the Species we have are super fragmentary, and aren't mature specimens. Bones certainly grow and morph as the dinosaur ages, and thus it gets heavier with the additional fatty tissue, internal organs, etc. From what we have, Baryonyx appears to be moderately built, and the holotype is considered to be a subadult( unfused sutures in the skull)

Photo cred to Scott Hartman.

Anyways, that animal doesn't appear to be 'lightly built' at all

Suchomimus Tenerensis Also appears to be more robustly built, more so then Baryonyx:

And, using these two species we can get a rough appearance of how rubustly built Spinosaurus was..

(From top to bottom: Baryonyx, Suchomimus, Spinosaurus)

Maybe 70%-30% or 80%-20%

So, spinosaurs 50% piscovour 50% terrestrial hunter.

People really think I should be the next mod!?! Wow! I can't believe it. 

Also I think your estimates might be a little off, but it's an estimate.

Imeant conspiracy against Spino team, the reason to lock spinosaurus is to avoid figthing, if i where a mod id also lock a lot of spino

Why are we bringing in MODs to this discussion? I say what is to be said on this discussion, you know why? Because i created it! And i will not have it closed due to people bringing in unrelated topics, end of story.

In on spino team.

Ya but the mods close it constantly.

He's right though Cat, i've mentioned it two or three times, and other then that it's been in multiple fights and posts being negatively posted about it, which is unfortunate because it certainly was a magnificent creature. 

Srex there is no secret conspiracy against you infact everyone agrees G2K should be the next mod and he is spino team

It has. I'm do sorry I cause I love spino.

There have barely ever been any topics about Spino, unless it was being put down in some way by someone on the opposite team.

About a 50/50 as well for me, it was power vs agility, Allo's weight allows it to move more fluid-like, but not by too much, and they both were considered to be more powerful than not.

Lets do this everyday.

I  gotta go to bed I have school.

It's an interesting idea, and perhaps a tactic it actively used, because Predators don't want to expend a lot of energy running down their prey, they want to make it quick and easy, without getting injured

this is a place to debate, so lets debate without close our minds to the ideas- 

I'm having fun reading all this, Ive been a big spino fan, so listen what you guys think about it is a pleasure.

That is ture Cat, Crocodiel attacks were more on the surprise factor.

Gone for now guys, I'd seriosuly love to stay here and keep my part in this interesting discussion, but I'd like to take my walk no before it gets dark. See ya!!!

Do you know the croc technicke of waiting, thats one of the reasons they didn't use to mush energy compared to their size, spino could of had skin the color of sa a swamp and whait for fish or small prey to get near, that whay he dosrn't use a lot of energy and have sucesfoul hunts

It would appear Spino would be one of the less aquatically tied Spinosaurs as well

So then it would go on land and ambush the hadrosaurids.

Cat, if fish saw something that big underwater, do you think they would stick around to see if would eat them or not? Hell to the no they wouldnt, and a Spino swimming faster than a fish? I would totally disagree on that.

Spinosaurs was no exception to the predator rule.