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Also here is a quote from each Raptor from the Lego infographics that were released today. It also reveals how each Raptor got its individual colors. If don't want spoilers, don't read these.
Blue:
"In the late Cretaceous Period, the Velociraptor excelled at hunting with its keen senses, large brain, and the retractable sickle claw on each foot – and no creature in Jurassic World demonstrates this better than Blue, the leader and oldest member of the raptor pack. Larger, smarter and more cunning than the rest, she insists on eating first…which is why Own feeds her last so she remembers he’s in charge. DNA from a Black-Throated African Monitor Lizard provides her distinctive pattern of scales, which reflect an iridescent blue color."
Charlie:
"Charlie is the youngest member of the current raptor pack, and its least-experienced hunter. Her instinct-driven reactions make her hard to predict, so Owen never takes his eyes off her during training sessions. As the “rookie” of the group, Charlie looks to Blue for guidance and commands during hunts, and will immediately give up a meal to her pack leader. The InGen scientists have genetically programmed her with the dramatic striping of a large Green Iguana."
Delta:
"The second-eldest member of the raptor pack, Delta shows the signs of InGen’s genetic experimentation and modification in several ways. Along with her unique gecko-like pupils, she has been infused with more avian DNA than her sister raptors have, resulting in her very bird-like movements and behaviors. Being watched by Delta is a lot like being stared at by an eagle about to launch an attack."
Echo:
"When they were both young raptors, Echo once challenged Blue for command of the pack. Unfortunately for her, Blue was the stronger fighter, and Echo was left with the permanent scars of their encounter across her face. Because of her permanent sneer, some of the Jurassic World dinosaur handlers have nicknamed her “Elvis”."
1.I have seen many studies stating the opposite.
2.we are talking about theropods not mammals.
3. I've seen studies that prove the exact opposite.
1. Many old studies. New ones show the opposite. THose earlier were based on length, not actual mass. It is more referrable to fighting a Giganotosaur than a sauropod.
2. Actual studies on the animals we are speaking of right now, therefore relevant animals.
3. That is definitely not a fact. Both had extremely wide gapes. Here is a study saying exactly what I am. Link
^Sorry man. But, if you want, you can watch these videos:
I've been watching them myself. They are really good! It kind of makes up for it.
^Didn't download for you either?
Gojira your not alone.......
I have an iPad Mini 1st generation. It's the only iPad Mini that doesn't support the game.
1.nany studies also show giga as being the heavier. And taking a trike will not compare to taking a giga.
2. Actual studies in irrelevant animals.
3. It's a widely known fact that rex has a small gape while giga has a larger one.
Good.
1. Mountain of muscle is what I said. But I did not say they were skeletons. They were all quite muscled and fit, but Tyrannosaurus was especially muscular and bulky, even for a theropod. Giganotosaurus was lean and quick, perfect for reaching and clamping onto sauropod's flanks. T. rex was robust and muscular, perfect for taking on armored prey. That is why many studies (and my personal belief) suggest the Tyrannosaur having more mass.
2. These are actual studies, so yes I can.
3. I understand, however, Tyrannosaurus' gape was about equal (although, i will admit slightly less) to Giganotosaurus' but not enough to cause a big difference. A better example of trade offs between the two is the Tyrannosaur giving up knife like teeth for a crushing bite.
you didn't offend me.
1.mountain of meat? As if other theropods are just walking skeletons with skin.
2.you still can't compare them.
3.eveolutinary tradeoffs primal, evolutionary trade offs.
What device do you have?
No matter, it's the 30th and we got this. ^.^
I feel so left out. I tried downloading it, but it said my device was not compatible. :(
Sorry again if I offended you.
1. It really was though. Just look at the skeletons. Also, muscle accounts for a lot and by my standards, Tyrannosaurus was a "mountain of muscle" among theropods.
2. Thanks. It was to show how intelligence really does help in a fight. The smaller, albiet smarter, lion wins.
3. I'm aware of evolutionary trade offs, but that is not what the skull suggests. The mandibles and maxillaries (jaw bones) are very similar to a ball in socket joint, suggesting both could open their jaws extremely wide.
1. giga was not that slender compared to rex. And their weight was very similar and since some specimens are longer they could be heavier.
2. Cool story. Now why you compared two extant "small" mammalian canivora that are the same species and bulk to two extinct and vastly different reptiles the aren't the same species. Is beyond me. That was highly irrelevant to the debate.
3.its common sense, really. if you have a very strong bite you have a small gape and vice versa, it's called evelotionary trade offs. Giga had to get its mouth around the huge concave sides of sauropods, rex had to get its mouth around prey its size.
4. I'm patiently waiting.
Oh, my bad. And yeah, I actually had a bunch of personal problems today, so yes. My bad again.
1. It doesn't matter about length. The Giganotosaurus specimens were longer than most Tyrannosaurs. Not taller or heavier. Tyrannosaurus is much bulkier and has quite longer legs. I'll see if I can find an accurate size comparison I saw that pretty well sums it up.
2. Mine isn't nonsense. Mine is from working at a zoo where we see scuffles between two male lions ALL the time. Their names are Baron and Vulcan and although Vulcan is smaller than Baron, Vulcan is smarter and manages to plan out what he will do better. Therefore, in most fights, Vulcan wins. We aren't talking about two animals at opposite size spectrums, we are talking about two similar sized theropods.
3.I said they could cut and slash. Also, both theropods could stretch their jaws to the point of nearly unhinging them, so there is no point to the gape argument.
4, Finding the article now.
I hate typing on iPads.
you agree with him? You can join in the debate at any time.
I agree with PK.
I would have answered, and I was in the process of typing a response when my iPad froze. The SOB has been acting up on me lately.
first off, that was a joke. Someone a bit sensetive today?
1.Proof for rex being so much bigger? If anything, giga is bigger. Two specimens if giga have been found, both are bigger then most rex specimens, she is the only the matches or outsized them. So your point is invalid.
2. as I said, you can't compare their intelligence, their too different. And we don't know how smart either are so lets not compare them. And so what if its bigger? A dog has a bigger/ body ratio then a whale but a whale us most likely smarter. and intelligence has VERY LITTLE to do with fighting. i got my nonsense from scientist and research and peer review. Where did you get your nonsense?
3. Giga is MADE for slicing and tearing off huge chunks just look at their skull. and their teeth are blade like, like Sharks. So why can't they cut? And I never said arteries filled every part of the body. And giga has a far wider gape then rex so it has much more places to bite. Where are you getting your nonsense from?
4. Proof?
First of all, that was a joke. Someone feeling a bit brash today?
1. Yes, it most certainly is 1 1/2-2 tons heavier. Even attachments on the tops of the ribs support muscle, not to mention the fact that the rib cage was much deeper and thicker than that of Giganotosaurus. Don't let previous knowledge and bias get in the waya nd just look at the skeletons.
2. It cannot take out chunks. It can slash as you stated later in this point. And arteries are not filling every point of any animals body. We all have a select few arteries and coronories inside our bodies. Also, if it slashes veins that is not big enough of a deal to keel the Tyrannosaur over. Again, a select bite. I never said it was impossible, I said it was very precise.
3. Only the front section was. Much of the rest was a problem solving component. And intelligence definitely has to do with fighting. To quote you, "where'd you get that nonsense from?"
4. No it does not. Tyrannosaurus had about 70 degrees of movement in its arms. Giganotosaurus has about 45 degrees. I don't think the Rexes' arms are better in any sense of the word. My point is that in this fight, with the limited movement and short length, there was no way they could be a big factor.
Downloading it.
HA! You are here to save vader? If he can't beat me what chance do you have?
1. Rex is not two tons heavier the giga, where did that nonsense come from?
2. Giga's bite can take out giant chunks of flesh and sever arteries and veins. Why shouldn't it kill in one bite? And besides, it's got a bigger and better gape.
3. These are two COMPLETLELY different animals, you can't comoare their intelligence. And most of Rex's brain is dedicated to the olfactory bulbs. Not intellegwince. Besides, intellegence is not a factor in a fight.
4. The giga has far more mpavement then rex in terms of arms. If you think it is unimportant rgen why did you say rexes was better.
Don't worry, Vader, here I come to save the day!
60/40 in favor of the Rex. The tyrannosaurus has nearly two tons more of muscle and bulk packed onto it, plus a intellectual strategic advantage. Not to mention, one bite and the Giganotosaurus goes down, while it would take a pretty strategically placed bite from the carcharodontosaurid to bring down the Rex in one bite. The arms are nearly useless in this scenario, and have less mobility than even the Tyrannosaur's.
Not too shabby, Not too shabby at all.
Besides some more promenant things, I think it looks Fantastic. Keep advancing your skills, The idea was great, and the execution could've been a tad bit better.
But good work!
-Paden
So... I suppose the Jig is up...
*Whispers into the pack*
ABORT MISSION
ABORT ABORT ABORT!!!*!@&&@!&!@(!
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I'm... I'm free.... GUys.... Guys!?!? I'm free! They let me go!!! The Raptors... They... They... Guys... They... They let me go....
They let me go...
They let me go?
what makes you say rexy is gonna take a hit better then gigy?
Yes, you do know better. Challenge me, and it's your head in a jar on my desk.
Bulkier, possibly a bit tougher. Giga was big, but it needed to be agile. Whatever weight evolution could take off, it probably did. Fair to say Giga couldn't take a hit like Rex (not saying Giga couldn't take a hit).
Actually your a kaijusaurus.
IM A MOTHER *BEEP* T-REX
Your back apparently.
But it do you have reasons to favor rex besides the typical "rex has a stronger bite" junk I hear constantly?
That's pretty cool. Nice work.
That'll be a cool ending. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
55-45 Rex IMO.
Personal bias? I guess. That's just me.
I'm planning to end it as Masrani captures Rexy.
