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It would as easy as swinging a shoulders rifle do to reasons I already stated
The therizenosaurs would have no problem swinging its arms since it was connected to its body. And packed with Muscle.
It was an example. I didn't say a good one, just an example. Not the pipe example for difficulty, but not as easy as, say, swinging a shouldered rifle that's about four feet in total length (weight around seven or so pounds).
No doubt about it, but perhaps at higher velocities it would have some difficulty stopping at the very least.
But Happy, those are its arms packed with much more muscle than what me and you have when swinging a pipe that long, thats a bite of a poor arguement because this is about the leverage along with the strength, not the relationship between humans being able to do as much as a dinosaur in a single swipe.
@mr. happy yes, that's true. But that eight foot pipe isn't attached to your arm, and you don't use it in every day life, but the arms of Therizinosaurus were just that, and in all likely hood it could swing them around with a fair amount of ease
Even if it did only hit the base, it would be able to cause some damage. Perhaps only minor, but damage nonetheless.
Its a lot thicker towards the base, and i doubt that Das would be able to get its mouth around any spot that could cause real damage.
Everyone has different thoughts in the matter. Even given the same information, people will view it differently. Nothing's going to change that.
Anyway, if Therizinosaurus did indeed have a 14 foot reach, it would be a heck of a weapon, but it would take a minute to get ready for a second slash after one. Anyone ever swing a piece of pipe about eight feet long? With a weight do ten pounds, those things get a heck of a velocity going on the end. But, once it's going, it doesn't stop easy. And once it's stopped, it doesn't start easy. Same would most likely be the problem with Therizinosaurus swinging it's arms around.
It's only for a few seconds to bite the head off the theiriseniosaurus.
But also, mentioning Therizinosaurus's height advantage, DRAMATIC advantage at that, Das would probably have to jump a good 6 feet in the air to even get a chance of biting its neck, but I doubt a Das would be able to even get a 3 foot jump, that and also would have to get through those big arms. So definately, i lean a fair amount towards Therizinosaurus.
The prowess of 'Rearing up' in Tyrannosaurs seems a bit...understudied.
But, for a decently sized tyrannosaur such as das to 'rear up' would cause its center of gravity to shift backwards, due to the relatively long tail. It puts the animal in an unstable and vunerable position, which i do not believe it would enjoy being in.
Das had a head height of 8-11 feet.(nine being roughly the average)
Therizinosaurus had a head height of 13-16 feet, you tell me how it's going to get that neck. Or how Daspletosaurus is even going to get close enough to deal out serious injuries?
This is a face to face confrontation, not ambush. Though that's the only way i'd say das would be able to kill it
Zhuchengtyrannus(pre-dated it about a million years or so, but still) and Tarbosaurus were larger then Daspletosaurus, hence the likelyhood of them killing an animal the size of Therizinosaurus go up, not substantially, but still.
rDaspletosaurus is not a small animal.
I also think Daspletosaurus is taller than you give it credit for...
Why cpuldnt daspletosaurus rear up then bite the head or neck.
So it takes out the legs and the Therizinosaurus falls. Suddenly the neck's in range. There's more than one way to kill a Therizinosaurus.
Species of tyrannosaurs have been found alongside therizinosaurs in the Zuni Basin and also in Mongolia, so the two species have been found alonside each other.
Oh boy, this ones preety tough. Theres little to argue with about those claws, but then again if Daspletosaurus can get to that skinny neck, its preety well over with.
Das isn't getting the neck unless it jumps. That's evidenced in the size comparison i posted in the first page.
I wouldn't say tyrannosaurs are adapted to kill therizinosaurs, no. Ankylosaurs/ ceratopsians. Youbetcha.
No other daspletosaurus would win with a bite to the neck.
its not cause its a tyrranosaurs.
Actually, I'd give the same odds to an Allosaurus, but I doubt you'd believe me.
Never once did i say it couldn't win, just that it wouldn't win the majority.
Velociraptor/ Protoceratops is a predator/prey relationship, so the answer to that one is pretty much apparent.
Utahraptor/ Iguanodon probable prey - predator relationship as well.
Those aren't good anologies, as they aren't tyrannosaurs. Point me in the direction of showing Tyrannosaurs were capable of killing things significantly larger then themselves, then i'll let it be
In a face to face fight, You can't tell me an animal signifigantly shorter, lighter, and not possessing quite the reach its opponent has is going to win the majority? because...why?
Oh, it's a tyrannosaur, gotcha
Yes, cause they are adapted to kill Them.
A Utahraptor is smaller than an Iguanodon. Utahraptor can still win. The list goes on and on.
That's cause the smaller creatures is adapted to take down the large creatures.
So it's smaller. Doesn't mean it'll lose. Simple as that. A Carcharodontosaurus is smaller than a Spinosaurus. Still can win. A Velociraptor is smaller than a Protoceratops. Still can win. Need I go on?
Cause it has the tools to deal with therizenosaurs.
I've read about Pete 3, and it's not even certain it's a daspletosaurus at this point.
http://dinosaursanctuary.com/specimens/dinosaurs/theropod/daspletosaurus-torosus-pete-3/
^ from that article..
" This specimen shows substantial differences from the holotype D. torosus, and may be described as a new species"
Scientific evidence, yes we do have for certain aspects. But i'm not going into this right now.
Therizinosaurus outweighs Daspletosaurus by a factor of two. Better weaponery or not, the smaller Tyrannosaur is outmatched.
These claws may not be perfect for being used as weapons, but they could inflict deep penetrating wounds and give it a very wide swiping range at the smaller opponent. This, coupled with an obvious tremendous strenght advantage, will easily make up for it´s lack of a dangerous bite.
You appear to not take into the fact Daspletosaurus is over two times smaller then Therizinosaurus, why would you give it the edge? That's what i want to know.
By that logic. All we know could be wrong.
You're saying we have hard scientific evidence for animals that have been dead for 65 million years? Yeah, that's legit.
Way to go jumping to conclusions. I had no intentions of locking it. I meant I was done. And if you ask me, you didn't refute anything.
PS- if you so desire, here's some articles mentioning Pete 3 the Daspletosaurus...
http://rmdrc.blogspot.com/2012/01/daspletosaurus-prep-update-now-with.html
http://dinosaursanctuary.com/specimens/dinosaurs/theropod/daspletosaurus-torosus-pete-3/
We have opinions, yes. But, this is debate. Your opinion doesn't matter in this circle, hard scientific evidence for your claims does
Guys stop !!!!!!
We sll have our opinions!
I'm refuting your points right and left, you're losing this debate so you're going to lock it?
that much figures.
The only one going to take it too far is you, i'm trying to have a debate with you and you're getting angry and defensive because, why?
Look, I feel like your ramming what you have to say down my throat, and you feel the same way about me. So, I think I'm gonna wrap it up here before this goes farther. Fair nuff?
