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Xenotaris

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Hello Scified its me Xenotaris. I wanted to create this forum to help people recognize what is a dinosaur and what is not.

Okay Dinosaur or Dinosauria is a clade of reptilian animals that have their legs tucked underneath them rather than sprawling out. They range from Cold-Blooded to Warm-Blooded, most if not all of them had some feather covering or non-at all like the sauropods.

Dinosauria clade also include the modern clade Avia or Birds as well as the extinct Non-Avian Dinosaurs, but dinosaurs are within a larger clade Ornithrodira which includes the Dinosaurs, their descedents birds, the flying Pterosaurs, the dinosaur's ancestors and ancestral cousins the dinosaurmorphs and Dinosauriformes. Which itself belongs to the larger clade: Archosauria. Archosauria then rests in Archosaurmorph which belongs to the clade Diaspids which includes both the Archosaurmorphs and Ledpidosaurmorphs.

Mosasaurus: Often called a dinosaur in media, but it sadly is not seeing that its far more closely related to Snakes and Lizards which are both under the clade squamata which is under the clade lepidosauria.

Pterosaurs: Often mistaken for dinosaurs but they are far more closer related to Dinosaurs than the Mosasaurus.

Dimetrodon: One of the most erroneous, since Dimetrodon isn't even a member of Diapsid reptiles but rather the Synapsids; a clade of animals that would eventually lead to mammals.

Prehistoric Mammals: Yes some people think that Mammoths, Sabertoothed Cats, and Mastodons were dinosaurs. This is obviously wrong but I had to include it.

Megalodon: Yes people seem to think that Meglodon is a dinosaur since it didn't live with humans but this is obviously wrong since its a shark and not a reptile of any kind, let alone an archosaur.

Birds: This is a dinosaur, since Birds are direct descendants of theropod dinosaurs.

Tyrannosaurus: This is a Dinosaur, under the clade of theropod which includes all carnivorious dinosaurs, a few bipedal herbivorous dinosaurs , and of course birds.

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Dinosaurs are related to Archosaurs. (are my words purple?) So they share the same parent and are related to each other (If you're going to say that a Raptor is related to a Brachiosaurs well...a bit). Their protein are different but have the archosaurus part. Well pre-modern birds rose and then came the modern one. Also how come a fish could of have evolved into and amphibian? Well evolution is a strange slow process.

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all these journalist are freaking dumb, they overly simpfly dinosaurian evolution. There is no transitional fossil of a T. rex becoming a bird let alone a chicken. So all the birds in the same clade as the chickens are not T. rexes? T. rex's was at the end of its own evolution, due to falling meteors.

Updated: But Tyrannosaurus diverged early from the rest of coelurosaurus, I'm just saying Birds evolved from the common ancestors of Raptors and Troodons rather than some how getting its DNA from T. rex.

 

It would be like saying that Humans are closely related to Pigs, due to having the same protein but Pigs are not part of our evolution at all. Since we are primates!

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64 million years ago...ouch didn't think of that. Xenotaris your a smart guy i admire your determination and tactics!

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I take in the account of the millions of years but the fossils show that birds came from raptor-like dinosaurs not Tyrannosauruses

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Guanlong is raptor like but is still considered as a Tyranosaurus... The first dinosaur ever was Eoraptor who well evolved into different branches strange... Xenotaris you should make a "Dinosaur Evolution Theory" discussion so we could keep everything in order.

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Okay I will do that, but on Guanlong: Yes its raptor-like but it is a primitive Tyrannosauroid. Eoraptor is actually a primitive sauropod. What i mean by raptors I mean Dromaeosaurids, Raptor is just faster to spell and for convenience sake but I will post the Evolution post.

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EORAPTOR WAS A SAUROPOD!!?!??! (Also it's me Shiro Goji A.K.A Shiro)

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One last thing. We should gather all Dinosaur experts for the discussion you will be posting!

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Dinosaurs are related to Archosaurs. (are my words purple?) So they share the same parent and are related to each other (If you're going to say that a Raptor is related to a Brachiosaurs well...a bit). Their protein are different but have the archosaurus part. Well pre-modern birds rose and then came the modern one. Also how come a fish could of have evolved into and amphibian? Well evolution is a strange slow process.

 

Shiro that text appears purple on my computer lol

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^Same.

Good grief.

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