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Indominus vs. Rexie

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IndominousIsGod

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 2:30 PM

Well we know that hte Indominus is genetically and physically superier, and would most likely kill Rexie; but how badly hurt do you think the Throne Crasher would be in the fight? I mean, it's still fighting a T. Rex; they're not exactly pillow fighting. 

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TyrannoWright

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 3:09 PM

You miss the fact that this is a older animal, she's not frail and weak. She knows a fight better than the Indominus Rex with her experience with raptors in the Nublar incident of '93. Alot of people say "It doesn't matter who has the biggest weapon, it's how you use it." This means Rexy is more capable of defeating the I-Rex.

Primal King

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 3:10 PM

You have quite a love for I-Rex. I'm pretty sure that Rexy is actually going to win the fight in a throw back to the original and showing that nature will always conquer man's mistakes and creations. Btw, it's Indominus Rex not Indominous.

"If you can't see it... It's already too late."

-Jurassic Apocalypse (by Paden)

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 3:12 PM

*sighs* Am I the only one who thinks Rex would actually stand a chance?

Anywho, here's what I think, take it or leave it, doesn't matter, I'm saying it.

The I-Rex was designed to be larger. Larger can refer to weight, length, or height. Because it's a movie, let's assume all three. Therefore, according to Wu, I-Rex is larger. However, actually looking at the I-Rex, she may not be as superior as you think. Her DNA consists of Carnotaurus, Rugops, Majungasaurus and Gigantosaurus (correct me if I'm wrong, but I know there's three Abelisaurs and Giga in her). That makes for length, agility, large arms, height, camo ability (according to toys I've seen and the fact that JP Carnos could camo themselves). Her skull is also fairly abelisaur more than Giga. It's more robust. That would make for an impressive bite, but not the most powerful. She also doesn't look that heavily built. She also somehow got very intelligent.

Rexy was designed to be as close to the real deal Tyrannosaurus Rex as she could be, and that's what she is, a 100% (slightly modified) T-Rex. She's heavily built, most powerful bite force on the island of Isla Nublar, the best sense of smell on Isla Nublar, and the fact that she survived 22 years in the wild must mean something when it comes to experience. You don't just survive for 22 years without knowing what you're doing. Rexy isn't stupid either. She may not be as intelligent as I-Rex, but she does make up for it. Being heavier and having a lower centre of gravity gives her an edge when push comes to shove and they start trying to push each other through a building.

But I'm sure the I-Rex would win every time IRL because she's a hybrid and Rexy's only going to win because it's a movie and to make T-Rex fanboys like me happy because we can't handle Rex's defeat to some dinosaur no one ever heard of in JP3, right?

Jack of all trades. Master of none

IndominousIsGod

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 4:01 PM

I don't think JP III really hold relevance here, I mean; the sub-adult Rex from that movie almost bodied the Spino. Rexie is roughly the same size as that Spino and holds much more strength. I feel her experience would help her more against the Indominus than her physical prowess. I mean, sure she's older; but I think that's her main disadvantage. The Indominus has a much larger, faster, more durable, more youthful body that makes it faster. Here's how I think it will go; the two trade blows and bites, seeming very evenly matched at first. The battle goes on, Rexy begins to slow down due to her age and begins taking more damage in the tradeoff as the Indominus is suffering from no fatigue what soever. She soon is struck by a near-fatal wound from the Inominus and seemingly dies. As the Indominus begins to exit the scene, she is suddenly struck on the neck by Rexie who delivers a critical strike; a testimate to her experience.  The Indominus staggers and has trouble collecting itself. The two are nearly ruined by this fight, but Rexie collapses first and succumbs to the wounds; the indominus walking off in a severely injured state (this injury probably going to be the opening factor to its death.) Rexie faught hard, but was just outmatched by a more youtful carnivore that was engineered to be the perfect killing machine.

Raptor-401

MemberAllosaurusJun-04-2015 4:04 PM

None of us have yet seen the movie yet you claim that I-Rex is superior? How so? sure you can argue so with the info given, but have you yet seen it in full detail in the movie?

and I'm sure Primal is right, the Rexy may destroy the I-Rex to show how Nature will conquer over man's mistakes. That or man's mistakes may cause natura to crumble...

 

Depends on what turn Jurassic World takes into when it comes to moral/ethics.

IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!

IndominousIsGod

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 4:11 PM

It's no secret that when it comes to the given equipment, the Indominus just outclasses Rexie. Its biteforce is just as strong as Rexie's, its armor is superior, it can use its arms as an offensive measure along with that comparable bite, has the agility of an oversized raptor, and is younger with a fully developed body. From the trailers, its armor was strong enough to withstand both personalized gunfire and aircraft gunfire. Its claws and jaws are strong enough to rip apart a gryosphere with ease, which is a vehile that taked a blow from an ankylosaurus and only suffered a few cracks. When it comes down to it; Rexie is just softer, less well-equiped, and all around less prepared for the fight that shall ensue. 

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 4:11 PM

INDOMINOUSISGOD - Your enthusiasm is quite nice! With regards to your question: I believe that I-rex's genetically engineered nature is not necessarily a guarantee of superiority in a battle. As a matter of fact, it could be the animal's greatest weakness. As has been shown in a great many studies, genetically engineered life-forms are not as effecacious with regards to survivability and capacity for natural behavior as an animal born from the womb. There is simply something missing from thier biology that undermines their physiology and psychology. However, we are dealing with science fiction in this regard. As such, I-rex might very well be a hyper-powerful nightmare that simply desires to kill - and is more than capable of acting upon that desire with little or no difficulty! Regardless, I happen to believe that the Tyrannosaurus is going to be the victor if a battle ensues between her and the I-rex; that is simply what the vast majority of Jurassic Park fans would desire - and I happen to believe that the director is aware of this and would not risk angering that fan base! However, this is simply my conjecture; it very well could be that I-rex tears the T-rex to bloody bits! :)

IndominousIsGod

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 4:16 PM

The indominus was intelligent enough to rip out a tracker that was implanted into it when it was just a hatchling, which is a level of sophistication that a Tyrannosaurus is just not capable of. Seriously, Rexie is outclassed in EVERY single way except for experince. I mean, do you really think that Rexie has the kind of tools to whipe out an entire field of apatosaurs before they can even mantain a decent distance from one another? 

The best-case scenario for Rexie is that they both kill eachother, but there probably won't be a scenario where she actually survives her injuries from the fight. 

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 4:28 PM

INDOMINUSISGOD - You make excellent points! However, I am reminded of a battle between a modern F22 Raptor and a WW2 era Corsair fighter that I watched roughly a year ago. In this mock battle, the Corsair (a much less sophisticated machine) was the victor despite the fact that the F22 outclassed it in every way. The reason behind this unexpected outcome was simple: the F22 was too advanced to account for the simple nature of the Corsair - nor could it perform the same manuevers as the less sophisticated aircraft. Though it was the most advanced aerial weapon at the time, the F22 was defeated by its own sophistication; lacking the ability to improvise and adapt to changing circumstances. Now, I am aware that we are comparing organic beings in this topic. However, I believe the scenario I have just provided holds some weight and relevance with regards to the situation. Regardless, this is a very fun topic! Thank you for presenting this for our consideration! :)

Primal King

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 4:28 PM

You asked for this, so here we go. Intelligence, although it does have its role in a fight, is not a deciding factor many times. Also, there is not a chance in hell that the I-Rex's bite force matches Rexy's. Along with experience, these are the two ways in which the I-Rex is outmatched. The teeth simply couldn't support that kind of force. Also, it says on various sources that the I-rex in the movie is longer and taller than the Rex but is on par when it comes to weight. A more heavily built animal has a better chance of knocking the other down. Take a basketball player and a football player. They weigh about the same, but the Basketball player is taller. However, who has a better chance of tackling or outmuscling the other? The football player. More heavily built animals have a lower center of gravity. So in the end, it really does come down to an evenly matched fight. And fighting apatosaurs is absolutely nothing like fighting an animal of similar size, build, and strength. Totally different ball game.

 

(*drops mic and walks off)

"If you can't see it... It's already too late."

-Jurassic Apocalypse (by Paden)

Primal King

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 4:29 PM

VERY good point Something Real!

"If you can't see it... It's already too late."

-Jurassic Apocalypse (by Paden)

IndominousIsGod

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 4:39 PM

The indominus took more from the Tyrannosaurus than just its size. It's really not some oversized lightwieght raptor. It took all of the best aspects of all of the creatures that are inside of its DNA. Even if its bite isn't as powerful, it still should be comparable considering how quickly it took apart the Gyrosphere. In animals, whoever has the best equipment survives in the competition. There are many less differences between these two combatants than the Cross-Hair and the F22. Trust me, they wouldn't have put the Indominus in movie if it was just going to be a Spinosaurus 2.0 in regards to its capabilities. 

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 5:00 PM

INDOMINUSISGOD - Once again, you make excellent points! I am pleased that we could engage in this interesting discourse while maintaining civility and intelligent dialogue! I count this as a strong success with regards to the integrity of the forum! Not only that, but I am impressed with your strong debating aptitude; very nicely done! Once again, thank you for presenting this topic! :)

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 5:01 PM

The I-Rex took nothing from Tyrannosaurus. The super predator in I-Rex is Giga, not Rex. 

Jack of all trades. Master of none

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 5:05 PM

LORD VADER - I was not aware of that! I was under the impression that I-rex had been vested with T-rex and Carnotaurus DNA. This is most compelling! The fact that I-rex possesses Giganotosaurus DNA is very interesting! Thank you for making me aware of this information! :)

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 5:12 PM

PRIMAL KING - Thank you! :)

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 5:12 PM

I seen it on the JW website if I'm not mistaken. 

Jack of all trades. Master of none

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 5:15 PM

I stand by my belief, I-Rex would win in reality, I have stated my points in other discussions many times before, BUT Rexy will 99.999999% Win. It's a movie, you don't bring back an ICONIC character just to die. 

 

I also stand by that I strongly believe the Indominus is larger in all ways, LEGO confirmed it, and just looking at the clip she is huge when chasing Owen. I agree she is on par with weight, but others say she is only a juvenile/sub-adult, which makes it more creepy. (Reminds me of King Kong, those V-Rexes were actually juveniles :P) I also say that the T-Rex in JP/// was not so young, pretty much full grown, they used the Bull/Buck's animatronic for that and the CGI version is almost a big as the TLW Rexes.

 

Also why does everyone say Rexy is soooo big? I get she is powerful (this is coming from someone who loves Rexy more than the I-Rex) but she isn't that big, when you look compared to the TLW Rexes or JP/// spino, she isn't HUGE, not saying she is small, just saying she isn't "The Biggest".

 

But yeah

I-Rex real life

Rexie movie

What most people want, Rexie

What I want Spinosaurus

 

JK Rexy

 

Feel free to argue, I don't ever hate on people, I try my best to be nice, anyway I have a 4 day weekend, then our shcool athlectics carnival, 5 days, then JW I am taking the day off on the the Thursday and maybe Friday then the weekend again! Yay!

 

 

 

Still my favourite GIF Image though...

 

Those jaws...

Look at those hands...

 

saurornithoides

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 7:54 PM

Well, I dont really think Indominus would win, Both in Real Life and in the movie.

 

Indominus is made to be bigger,better,badder, and louder than the t-rex. But the question is does it know that it is?

you see, because of its overwhelming "features" and "weapons" people would think the T-rex will hold nothing to it, plus it does have a predatory and evil nature which it exhibited in the trailers thats why we know it will be a fearsome predator.

BUT the I-rex has been kept in solitary most of its life, and people fail to remember this but it has yet to pit its skills against a formidable opponent specially something that could actually hurt her and make her bleed (who knows how she will react when she recieves the first bite from the t-rex). The T-rex is nowhere like an apatosaurus after all. :) The Tyrannosaurus Rex a 22 year old veteran is a walking bag of teeth and brute strength.

OK lets compare the two ability-wise.

1. I-rex killed some sauropods showing its mettle, well who says T-rex cant do the same? the only difference is that the t-rex is a REAL animal, it has instincts increpted in its dna, and it only kills when its hungry like we all already know.

2. I-rex could kill with its hands alone,a huge advantage against t-rex, But the T-rex has its legs, its underrated weapon.

3. bite force, i think would go to the t-rex but the bite radius would undoubtedly go to the I-rex.

 

so yeah, ability-wise they are quite on par with I-rex having a bit of an advantage so i think it all boils down to the idea i stated above. :)

Something Real

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJun-04-2015 8:04 PM

SAURORNITHOIDES - Those are very good points! I had not considered some of the information you have posited! :)

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 8:21 PM

Those are very good points, but I still stand by my belief, also one thing I have to take away from lots of people is that, Rexy has no experience...

 

The scuffle with the raptors lasted mere seconds, that was less than what the ACU could do + the helicopter and raptor squad. My biggest point is, she had no predators to compete with for her time on Nublar, none. Unless you count those eggs as raptors (I do) but they would usually not challenge a Rex so, she doesn't have experience like people think. Also they say JW has been open for 10 years, so that means 10 years of alone captivity. Also the I-Rexes legs would be just as, if not more powerful than the T-Rex.

 

But still good points, I hope we can talk more!

TyrannoWright

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 8:39 PM

@JPCerato

 

There are actually plenty of competitive carnivores than Velociraptor that were agianst Rexy. Baryonyx, Herrerasaur, Metriancanthosaurus, and grown Dilophosaurs.

Top Hat Gyaos

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 8:55 PM

-Tyrannwright

Not to mention Rexy could've hunted things like Triceratops and Stegosaurus for food.

Be yourself, for everyone else is taken.

saurornithoides

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 9:05 PM

JPCERATO = Indeed! we are not entirely sure if there were no other huge predators on nublar, this is really quite a funny coincidence, of all people it is you who replied. :)

heres what i was thinking when i made the post, remember JP3? no one could have predicted that we would see a Ceratosaurus in Isla Sorna, :D so i just thought for myself, maybe there are other huge predators that we just dont know are in the islands,

for example in JW they have the sucho and the bary also praise-worthy creatures, :)

So Isla Nublar might have other super predators "hanging around". all i know for sure is that Isla Nublar should have a Metriacanthosaurus although not as powerful and fearsome as the i-rex, but 2 or 3 of these predators would be a big challenge for the t-rex.

Also, rexy should've had experience from his years of hunting, after all there are also some difficult prey like Triceratops, ankylosaurus. :)

In conclusion, Rexy should've tasted a lot of pain which would probably make her more enduring while the I-rex because of its superior intellect might quickly learn that she is above all the dinosaurs she have met so far, but might be shocked to find something that could equal her. :)

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 9:35 PM

@Tyrannowright 

I highly doubt a Herrerasur, or even a pack would be competiton for a Rex if the Big One and her pal were killed in seconds, remember she killed 5 other raptors.

I don't think Baryonyx was on Nublar, it wasn't mentioned, that would be a bit more than a raptor...that  is like the JP/// ceratosaurus trying to take down Rexy....

Dilophosaurus and Metricanthosaurus were definatey there...(seen/on Nedry's DNA steal) 

Dilophosaurus I still cant see that as a threat or even a Metricanthosaurus....I think most these guys would run at first site, bloody that Ceratosaurus ran at the scent of spino droppings I think to see the real deal is a bit more. 

But yeah, the Herrerasaurus was in the game and was small, the Baryonyx may have not been on the Island, there were 15 species, that was never mentioned to be one, I do think they were on Sorna though, thats why Billy thought it was one before they found out the spino wasn't on INGEN's list.

I am not saying she is a scavenger though.

@BATTRA 

That is very true, but I think hunting and fighting are easily two different things, if we are to say hunting, well the I-Rex has a camouflage, took down Hamada and the ACU squad while hunting, killed 5-6 apatosaurs so...

 

Remember this is coming from a fan of Rexy and T-Rex...

 

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 9:46 PM

Oh and also if the I-Rex is that smart...it could easily plan/lpot ahead/ know boundries and adapt quicker..

 

She was bloody smart enough to trick our pals into her cage, cut her tracking becon off and know wehn to use her abilities as well as get the Pteranodons to take down the chopper...

 

"She is a highly intelligent animal...she will kill anything that moves..." 

Here she is next to Owen, who is like 10 meters in front of her close to the camera so he looks larger...

 

Now that I  look at it, this thing dwarfs the Rex!

 Thats flipping huge!

 

I keep thinking this is an animatronic, its huge!

This isn't exactly scale...

 

saurornithoides

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 9:59 PM

JPcerato: what the? Where the F did you get that close up pic of I-rex in crouched attack mode??? thats wicked! :D

UPDATE: your point regarding the Ceratosaurus was pretty good! 

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 10:08 PM

Thanks! I found the *F*ing thing one the internet ;) LOL Yeah I found it a while ago, Its sick, it has the bloody jaws!

And yeah, thanks, It takes me great courage and pain to say that about my favourite dino...

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 10:13 PM

Wow that was my 6ooth post!

saurornithoides

MemberCompsognathusJun-04-2015 11:52 PM

JPCERATO:

id like to discuss something regarding that indominus rex picture, can you start a discussion for it? like a new thread. :D

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