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Just a few Q's on JW + Hamada character, Rexy, Dilo and Spino

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JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusDec-30-2014 9:55 PM

Hi guys I just wanted to aks a few things + some things on Brian Tee's character Hamada, Rexy, Dilophosaurus and the Spinosaurus...

First the questions... I want to know...do you guys think it will start off with an attack? It has in all 3 previous movies...

 

1. The gate keeper (Jophery) attacked and killed by the Big One (or was it just another raptor?)

2. The little girl is attacked at the beach by compies but survives

3. Enrique and the others on the boat are attacked by an unknow animal (Spino, Pterasaur, Mosasaur)

So will this movie open with an attack? 

 

Next question is just a small one...will it rain? It has in all 3

1. Road attack

2. Trailer attack

3. River attack

Will it rain when the D-Rex shows up? Or maybe Rexy? It rained for Rexy, the Rex pair and the Spino...

 

 

The last question is will it end with something flying, bird or pterasaur?

1. Pelicans

2. Pteranadon lands on branch

3. Pteranadons fly away

Now onto Rexy, Spino and Dilophosaurus...

With the new update people have been seeing the Rexy family thing...well Rex family...I would first of all like t say if I'm wrong don't shout the update hasn't happended in Australia yet...2nd of all I want to say just because their is a Rex family doesn't mean it's Rexy's family...there might be a family in captivity but Rexy might still be out in the wild...

Now with Spino...he isn't on the size chart...or the mystery dino page...He might not appear...no one has confirmed...but if he is...he might be in the wild...or not for display like the D-Rex as they want to show Rexy kill both of the powerful dinos...or like I said in the wild...before you bite my head off just hear me out...1 its a movie 2 hear is my point...maybe he swimmed...trust me I don't like the idead but like I said it's a movie and also remember the crew on the boat of the 3 movie it is made to be thought the spino killed them...later on in the river attack when the spino is submerged except for its spine like a shark... maybe they will try and do an ultimate revenge like Rexy kills the individual Spino from JP3! (I hope not I love the spino) All even more EPIC! (Joke... :D) Like the dinos were bread on site B so was Rexy and the JP 3 Rex was related! Ultimate REVENGE! (Again Joke!)

Now Dilophosaurus same goes maybe he swam...Im kidding, she/ he might not be in the park but might be out in the wild...here is my little idea...using the leaked info on the Dilo killing the the guy urinating...(lol)

Maybe the worker/tracker is urinating on the leafs, when he hears a nosie, like little rattling of metal, he moves the leafs away to reveal the East Dock sign (showed earlier this year) then goes searching find the jeep and a skeleton of Nedry and then a Full Grown Dilophosaurus kills him...

It would be like Dieter Stark's death from TLW...

 

And now Hamada played by Brian Tee...I thought he was going to be played as the game warden...but now from the trailer he jsut looks like a worker or ingen military... If you look he as ACU on it just like the guy in this pic...

Also he could be the game warden, jsut because he is in one scene in trailer doens't disprove anything...I still think he is...and think he will be looking up and say something similar to "Clever Girl..." which brings me to my next point...

I watched a video on youtube that says he dies at the hand of the D-Rex from leaked info but not confirmed...I already guessed that from the trailer and thought right after they cut it he says whatever Clever girl etc. but then moments later we hear Chris Pratt (Owen) says "She is a higly intelligent animal...she will kill...anything that moves..."then you see someone getting dragged...I belive thats Hamada...if you look  

He seems to be in a little stream...then here is the pic of the victim

The ground is wet, the same colured pants and if you look up sunlight slowly be dragged away...maybe Hamada is in the sunlight and is dragged into darkness...

But back to what he is looking at... up first I was like the D-Rex because of the blood (maybe from its mouth, and I still do) but had a theory that maybe it was a dead body in a tree all something disturbing like the D-Rex stores food in trees...now I heard another rumour backing my theory saying its a baby triceratops...

Either way I can't wait! 

2 more things...

Did you guys noticed that Chris Pratt's character Owen's gun is a Winchester Repeater with a scope and modifications... :D

And I kow for a fact that Clair (Bryce Dallsas Howard) is using a flair to get Rexy but just a qucik theory what about maybe luring out the Arlix?

 

Anyway thanks for reading it took a while to put together...

Thanks! :D

JPCerato

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x_paden_x

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 12:32 AM

It most likely won't kick off the film, But the first casualty is to come from D-Rex, It's been teased to be similar to the first film in some of the trailers.

 

Aswell, The attack in JP3 on the boat, Pteradons have been Credited with that kill, Which, Makes sense, As, A mosasaur would've sunk the boat, and A spino probably couldn't get out that far. 

 

Rain is added by Directors/Writers to give it a more "All has gone to hell" Effect. A number of Things can happen to create that efect, But rain is the preffered one. I think that it probably won't rain. I dunno, Nothing in the trailer teases rain. Infact, The island looks really really dry.

 

It's a Miniscule little bit added in by the Writers to give the audience a Relieved feeling. I'd probably bet it'd be a bird, Rather then a Dactyl... Dunno why, It just seems repetetive to have them Again

 

There has been a Tease of a Rex family, But I wouldn't hold my breath on it. Much like other animals, Rexy is the Alpha, She is the Leader of her pride, Owner of her land. She would most likely kill Hatchlings that weren't hers (Concluding that she'd have to be Bred to Artifically inpregnated). If they did keep a bunch of Juvinile dinosaurs in a Sort of Isolation area, Where rexy can view them, And interact but not harm, They could possibly be introduced into her Enviroment.

 

Theres an Even greater chance, That along wiht some of the larger questions that can't be answered about the film (Like that Horrid Dinosaur X Gorrila,) Colins just kinda gone:           ¯_(?)_/¯     About it. So, Theres a likely chance that it's kinda just going to be a whole bunch of "Holly wood magic" to cover this one up.

 

 

Like I've said a Million times before. Spino ain't gonna show. I'm sorry, It just wouldn't make any sense. Even if there was one in the Isolated area of the island (Which I've been lead is for Park Development, Maintance, Geothermal plant, ETC) The one on Sorna probably would've died from age (Believed to be Unlikely, But plausible) or natural causes (Extremely possible). 

 

The distance between the two is too far for it to swim. It'd be isolated on Isla sorna, Regardless of whatever idea possible. It wouldn't make sense to breed a new one, Seeing how hammond didn't have the old one in the park. *I'd imagine they are extremely difficult to care for and keep in a paddock. * 

 

According to JP Wiki, The distance between Sorna and Nublar is 87 Miles West of Isla Nublar. 

 

I highly doubt a Dinosaur could swim that. (Very deep, Long distance would spell Drowning.)

 

The Dilo has been... Teased, For lack of better words, of being in the film. The Dilos were EXTREMELY elusive (According to JPTG) Almost as Elusive as the Troodons, Aswell as Dangerous. With a near intelligence to raptors, (JPTG) As well as a Rank system and Pack hunting, They are not easily toyed with. If they are in this "Isolated" Part of the island (Quotation marks cause I don't think it is) They are extremely dangerous. 

 

Although Cannon of the series explains that the Dilos were all still juviniles (JPTG and JP novel) , and had not yet reached full length, I get the feeling that if colin does include them, they're going to still be small so that the Audience sees that it's them, And not some "Freakish weird Small T-rex".

 

/One of my fears with this film release is that it will usher in a bunch of new "Amatuer Paleontologists, With little to no real Knowledge of Dinosaurs outside of the Jurassic world movie./

 

 

Hamanda is the Game warden, We're to see a lot of him (Thanks to some of the leaked scripts) He resembles Muldoon in Many ways, Even his death resembles muldoons. Owen (Chris pratt) Was revealed to be an Animal Worker *Or something along the lines* A couple weeks ago. I'd imagine he's got a fairly good relationship with Hamanda. As,  "No fire arms" On Nublar should probably still apply.

 

/Side note: I've no Idea what kinda of Camoflauge pattern that is. I dabble a little in Military unifroms, And that appears to be one Specifically created for the film, or is a rarely seen one. (I've seen them somewhere else, I just can't place my finger on it.) It's believed that A.C.U. Stands for "ANIMAL CONTROL UNIT" So, Essentailly Park Rangers *Which we didn't get to see in the first film.*

 

With the guy getting dragged into the bushes... There's a fair chance that that is hamanda, From the lower part of the Uniform, it makes sense. However Taking the other picture into account, the A.C.U. probably Has a bunch of Staff, This could be anyone. (But, Could easily still be Hamanda)

 

Baby Trike in a Tree bleeding out. Horrifying. (Triceratops was always my first love as a kid). But it could make sense.

 

D-rex in trees...

 

Hmm...

 

I love the idea, But D-rex has to weigh a Couple Tons at least! Meaning that the branches would probably snap under her weight. Unless they are from older Trees from the Original Re-forestation by Ingen, Or from original plants left there by the Natives of Nublar.

 

 

Good eye with the Rifle. The Iconic Winchester is a Great choice, but I don't think it could stop some of these animals in the park. It might be able to topple a Galiminus or Bring a raptor to it's knees, But It'd be kinda useless for the other species.

 

But, Seeing how Owen trains Raptors, it' makes sense for the Caliber and rifle.

 

But it also Shares a Similar Barrel to that of a Shot gun, (Possibly A winchester). It does have a Shape of a Winchester Repeater... But to get a good answer, @ Mr.Happy9097 Might have to be called in to settle this one...

 

A shot gun, According to muldoon, Will do the same, if not better then a Rifle on a Raptor. 

 

/I have no problem with the Gun that settled the west being in this movie, It's just that it doesn't quite make sense./

 

The Flare, is being used to Distract Rexy (Or D-rex) From attacking one of the Kids. (don't believe the Arlix Lies!!!)

 

Good job, Long post, but worth it. 

 

Stay Frosty

-Paden

 

 

Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way

x_paden_x

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 12:40 AM

Upon a Second Inspection of Owens Rifle, I've reached a Conclusion:

 

 

 

 

The Rifling of the Barrel is Much too Small for A shotgun as I originally Theorized. 

 

It does appear to be a Repeating Rifle, A very fair chance of it being a Winchester-- For speed, and Damage (Trust me, These Repeating rifles are not to be taken lightly).  The scope, Added for Accuracy, As The Repeating rifle can Often be off target. 

 

With a Standard Ammo count of around 12 Rounds of .22 or .45 caliber Ammunition, This rifle can be Extremely deadly, Aswell as able to take down multiple targets.

 

I'd imagine they'd prefer fire power, And would take the .45 over the .22. The rapid Fire rate could mean a Good shooter could Dispatch multiple dinosaurs of small sizes within a minute or so. 

 

The second barrel, is most likely the tube that holds the munitions, To be loaded into the action and fired. This gun would seem to make a good side arm for a Park ranger, Or whatever Profession it is that Owen has.

 

Remember,

Stay frosty.

-Paden

Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way

Godzilla316

MemberBrachiosaurusDec-31-2014 1:28 AM

@Paden

You made some really interesting points but...

I dont think Hammond didnt keep the Spino because they are difficult to handle but because he just didnt have time to put it in the park. Well first, the park wasnt fully developed for a paddock of it, or it wasnt built. Also, Spino is possibly a mistakrn species, thought to be a Suchomimus or Baryonyx, also JPIII is possibly 8 years after JPI, so Spino might have been a newborn or just not ready for park, as it might have still been on Sorna.

Remember that chap, I forget his name, he climbed Everest without any oxygen, came down nearly dead. They asked him, they said, "Why did you go up there to die?" He said, "I didn't, I went up there to live."

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 1:58 AM

Thanks Paden! Enjoyed reading your respsonse! Glad you confirmed Hamada as Muldoon was my favourite character, also I remember some people on the forum a while back telling me he was just a worker and I'M LIKE NO! But yeah, I get alll points with rain, spino, etc I just like to get stuff out their wider view, again thanks Paden!

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 2:12 AM

I so hope he does something like Muldoon with a good last line...or brutaly killed...it's funny haven't seen the movie he is already my favourite character! Funny enough I have only seen him in one film...Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift...and he was the antagonist and I dislike him... :D 

I hope he is made in Lego and Action Figure since I plan on am buying all of it! 

Also hope he shares traits to Muldoon and I hope the Spino doesn't appear like you said since I am a Spinop fan (but love Rex too and I hate when they fight! >:( ...) and I am 100000000000000000000 times with you on the Arlix I hate it!!!!!!!!!! It will ruin the JP Franchise and name!

Is this the script...found it ages ago and dug it out earlier...

 

"Clever girl..."

"You got me..."

"You are a smart one...you got me..."

"You got to be shittin' me..."

"Shi..." (cut off)

or maybe nothing just silence....

 

Lol

....Sta...Stay Frosty.... :0....:D 

JPCerato

 

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 2:22 AM

Oh 1 more thing....if you dond't mind going to go play some JPOG want be back for a while...I made Isla Nublar! :D 

 

Triple post...

Sci-Fi King25

MemberAllosaurusDec-31-2014 7:39 AM

Well, these are interesting points.

“Banana oil.”- George Takei, Gigantis: The Fire Monster

indiana jones

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 10:34 AM

there are no spinos on nublar

"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom

indiana jones

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 10:34 AM

there are no spinos on nublar

"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom

JPCerato

MemberCompsognathusDec-31-2014 3:02 PM

@Sci-Fi King Thanks!

@Indiana Jones Did you read anything I wrote aside from they are in the wild? I had theories...

Oh and guys for my small 3OO Post I am  going to do a fight and change my profile signature and picture ;)

JPCerato

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexDec-31-2014 5:02 PM

Interesting topic, and I agree with Paden on this.

Regarding that rifle, after scouring the Internet for about thirty seconds, and remembering some cool firearms I've seen, I've come to the conclusion that the rifle is most likely a Marlin 1895G "Guide Gun" chambered in 45-70 Government.

What is a 45-70 Government? The bullet dimeter is .45". It is capable of sending a 325 grain projectile at about 1900 FPS (factory spec for Hornaday 325 grain FTX rounds is 2050 FPS, but factory spec is used from a test barrel, not actual firearm and tend to be optimistic). What's that mean though? That simply means you've got a 325 grain, .45" chunk of lead flying towards your target almost double the speed of sound. When it hits, depending on the target, it's going to keep going. How powerful is it? It'll drop a one ton bison. Paden, I'd say that that's a bit more than just a Gallimimus.

A 45-70 Govt, in a nutshell, would take small to medium sized dinosaurs. I'd be hesitant, but I'd be willing to try and take down an Allosaurus with one. Using a solid point bullet (it's still a hollowpoint, it'll expand), a good headshot would probably down a four ton animal with one shot. You'd have to be a good shot (Owen, being ex-military, would be a good shot), and the scope would help accuracy.

Also, if you're wondering how a scope would be mounted on a lever action, as most lever action rifles eject from the top, right where the scope would be, the 1895G is different. Refer to the image. As you can see, the ejection port is on the side of the rifle, above the loading port.

What makes the 1895G an ideal rifle for Owen's purposes, is that it's compact. It weighs 7 pounds (maybe 7.5 with that scope), and with an 18.5" barrel, it's maneuverable. The rifle, being short and light, makes it easy to swing from target to target. A long, heavy rifle is harder to swing around (trust me, my .308 weighs 9 pounds and has a 24" barrel including the muzzlebrake, and I can swing it 90 degrees in about one second, vs my 16 gauge, which weighs maybe five pounds and has an 18.5" barrel, which I can swing 90 degrees in about half a second).

The Marlin 1895G is an ideal gun for what Owen is using it for because it's compact, powerful, and a follow up shot can be ready real quick (having used lever actions, I'd say someone experienced can have a follow up shot ready to be fired in maybe 3/4 of a second).

Jack of all trades. Master of none

x_paden_x

MemberCompsognathusJan-01-2015 12:31 PM

Thanks for narrowing that down and Calrifying Mr.Happy!

 

The picture provided seems to match up, Again, As @ JPCERTAO suggested, slight modifications. 

 

Now, A slight question I have... Is, why doesn't he have an Exotic custom rifle? I mean, The rifles already be customized, It's probably had some modifications done to the action itself to expand chances of bringing or tranquilzing a dinosaur.  Muldoon had the Spas-12, Which, is a pretty Expensive and Rank rifle itself... So, Why go with something so... Ordinary?

 

May I also put foreward a theory that a .22 Gauge version could be used to maybe "Stun" Dinosaurs? It'd still wound them, But it wouldn't nessicerely kill them, (Unless you were using hollowpoint rounds) With the skin, I'd imagine it'd take a bit to get through it, So, It'd kinda be like an Extreme welt, Maybe enough to harm them?

 

I don't know, Just some thinkings. 

 

 

Life cannot be contained, it breaks walls, crashes through barriers sometimes painfully, but uh... Life uh, finds a way

Lord Vader

MemberTyrannosaurus RexJan-01-2015 4:07 PM

Ain't no thing very ordinary about the 1895G. It's a lever action (correct term, as repeater refers to anyfirearm that holds two or more rounds), it's got a stainless steel action (doesn't rust as easily as a normal blued finish), and it's most likely a 45-70 Govt, which isn't a very common cartridge. The model that Owen has would run you about $750 at my local gun shop, so not a cheap rifle.

 

As for the SPAS 12, it isn't as pricey as you may think. Back in '89, a SPAS 12 would cost about $500. I've seen them for sale, and only two were over $1000. The pre-ban model (pistol grip, fixed stock, six round) for $6000, the one with the top folder AND the iconic hook for $2000. The version wielded by Robert Muldoon would cost anywhere from about $500 to $750 from what I've seen.

 

Intresting theory, but I'd imagine they have rifles designed specifically to be used with tranq rounds.

 

Also, about the fancy imported firearms, here's my idea:

Yes, they could have gotten him a Beretta, Benelli or some other firearm for 2-3 times the price and make it a flashy, badass looking firearm. Or, they could get something that looks not so cool, that has an old, basic action type (most cntrefire semi autos are expensive, especially if they are an import), has plenty of power (I've never seen a Benelli chambered larger than .223 in a rifle), and gets the job done. If you live on a farm and haul equipment, are you going to buy the flashy little lowered 2wd Chevy S10 with a 5.7 gas engine (it's for top end power. not bottom end)? Or, are you going to buy the giant (possibly beat up and/or dented), 4wd Chevy Silverado 3500 Dually with a 6.6 diesel? you're getting the diesel, it's more practical.

Jack of all trades. Master of none

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