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Epanterias(Allosaurus) Amplexus vs Carcharodontosaurus Saharicus

 

Epanterias

Epanterias is a genus of allosaurid from the Jurassic period of Colorado. It was described by Edward Drinker Cope in 1878. The type speciesis Epanterias amplexus. This genus is based on AMNH 5767, parts of three vertebrate, a coracoid, and a Metatarsal. Although Cope thought it was a sauropod  it was later shown to be a theropod. Gregory S. Paul reassessed the material as pertaining to a large species of Allosaurus in 1988 (which he classified as Allosaurus amplexus) Other authors have gone further and considered E. amplexus as simply a large individual of Allosaurus fragilis. In 2010, Gregory S. Paul and Kenneth Carpenter noted that the E. amplexus specimen comes from higher in the Morrison Formation than the type specimen of Allosaurus fragilis, and is therefore "probably a different taxon". 

Carcharodontosaurus 

 

Carcharodontosaurusis a genus of carcharodontosaurid  during the  mid- Cretaceous period.It is currently known to include two species, C.saharicus andC.iguidensis, which were among the larger theropods, as large as or slightly bigger than Tyrannosaurus and possibly slightly larger than Giganotosaurus, but not quite as large as Spinosaurus. At the time being, it appears C.Saharicus is larger then C.Iguidensis.

 

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Tyrant king
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Nice!!!

rooting for charcardontosaurs.

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Why is the Carcharadontosaurus section pretty much the exact same as the Wikipedia one (Wikipedia is a unreliable sorce ussualy) anyways

its a mismatch in favour of Carcharadontosaurus. Carcharadontosaurus was IMO weighed 6.5-8 tons while epanteris IMO was 3-5 tons. 

Carhcaradontosaurus wins easily, it has a stornger bulid, probably smarter, stornger, around the same speed. IMO carchar wins 70% of the time.

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Intelligence  dosnt play a role in a fight

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Yes. It does. Intelligence helps with tactics.

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ALL

Animals fight with instinct 

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Hey S-P. You've already burnt quite a few bridges here. Do you really think you should burn more?

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What does that mean.

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I use the wikipedia exerpts for this, so there's more room on debating sizes, haha i know it's rather unreliable but it does help in the debate aspect ;)

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True ;).

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I think hpp is mad at me.

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Well, if you use Wikipedia you can just scroll down and click on the sources for it. And in a way, there is no such thing as reliable data about dinosaurs, after all, 20 years ago they were considered dumb, stupid, giant, and monstrous reptiles. Now they theorize they were giant birds that were smarter than we credited them for, some even cooperated with each other to hunt.

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Awesome I know.

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Oh, goodness me, forgot to comment on who I would think would win. I think I would go with Epanterias... Like I said, one day I plan to expand upon my dinosaur knowledge so I can participate in these debates.

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Yeah. Im not mad, or anything. Was just a bit confused :) hey any of you up for a LOOOOONGGG DEBATE?

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Bring buddy!!

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I will win though.

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S-P, he was joking... If you even try to start a fight, I will asemble the JW members...

 

JW MEMBERS, ASSEMBLE!!!

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I'm aware of it raptor, and i have several dinosaur PDF files, so i know which sources are reliable and which aren't :P i find using thewikipedia exerpt though, it leaves more room for us to debate the sizes of the animals and what not

Wikipedia page for C. Iguidensis had it's length at 15 meters at one point..smh..

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Please no not again!!! 

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Yeah, but I see what you mean. I remember once reading a funny pie chart...

Can't find it. Well, just thought I'd say my due.

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