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Gigadino
MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 10:08 AM[img]http://content.answcdn.com/main/content/img/getty/2/5/52433725.jpg[/img]
Ok, look guys. I know the T.rex specimens called by the most of the people larger than Sue, the largest, 40,5-feet long T.rex (don't come with 42 ft, it's outdated now). Well, the "larger than "Sue"" (LTS) specimens are likely just hoax. Look:
1. MOR008
MOR008 wasn't larger than "Sue", his skull was actually "just" 1,34 m long and not 1,5 m.
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Actually, this specimen may ahve been longer than "Sue", but more gracile so lighter.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/l0nUiCC.png[/img]
But being just a skull, we don't know.
2. UCMP (juvenile and feet's bone)
The juvenile specimen: Yes, his head was big, but...it was only 16, and the juvenile specimens are generally big-headed. So it was likely less than 13 m, more like to 11-12 m in juvenile hood. An adult may have been as large as "Sue", but we don't know being fragmentary.
Fett's bone: A metatarsal of the feet, about 17 % larger than the "Sue"'s: it was really 17 % larger? The answer is: WE DON'T KNOW. Who says that his feet's finger get bigger due to a pathology? We don't know. Still, "Sue" i s still the largest.
3. C.rex
Likely a Allosauroid.
4. Celeste
If you believe in Celeste, you must believe in a scavenger T.rex. 20 % larger than "Sue" is big, but we don't know if it was really 20 % bigger, being the specimen not ufficially described.
Thomas rex, D.rex etc...are just big juveniles 17-18 years old: "Sue" reach his max size at 19 years. the adult D.rex/Thomas rex should be so as large as "Sue".
[img]http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/files/2013/07/tyrannosaur-face-off-990x664.jpg[/img]
The largest T.rex is still "Sue". Don't worry, T.rex-fan, "Sue" is still a big, big, very big beast, at 12,3 m and 8 t +! The largest T.rex must be confirmed for now, but "Sue" was still one of the most impressive and largest Theropod.
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DinoSteve93
MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 1:00 PMOk, first of all, go see previous threads, where is explained C-rex was not an allosauroid but a T-rex, considering his tooth.
Second, Thomas and UCMP were just a little younger than Sue, and they had a half of a life ahead, plenty of time to grow much bigger.
So, finally, I must say Sue is actually the biggest, but if you take in consideration age factors. A 15 years old guy can be as tall as a 20 years old, but maybe not as heavy or powerful. Same at T-rex.
Sue is just the oldest tyrannosaur found so far, but that doesn't mean it's the biggest.
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MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 3:17 PMok small question if you dought tyrannosaurus estimations so much then giganotosaurus would be 12.2 m (holotype) spinosaurus would be 14 m ( dal sasso speciemen ) and carcharodontosaurus would be 12 m ( holotype ) plus it would make sense considering the even though the most complete speciemen (sue ) is 85% complete the next most complete (stan) is 53% complete and the next is only 35% complete
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MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 3:33 PMgigadino with all do respect i like almost all your posts even a follower however sometimes i feel like you are a little biased against trex
DinoSteve93
MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 3:36 PMSame feeling here.
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Deltadromeus
MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 4:02 PMSue is 42 feet long, and I'm pretty sure that they didn't get much bigger than that. I honestly don't think that they got bigger than 44 feet long, but it has been made clear that C-rex is a tyrannosaur of sorts, just maybe not Tyrannosaurus rex himself.
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Gigadino
MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 5:48 PM"Sue" was 40,5 ft long. No, I'm not a T.rex hater. Yep, raptorex, your observation is good, I never said that I considered the most fragmentary specimens of the other species.
Eustreptospondylus
MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 7:21 PMI think that the max size for Rex was around 45ft. from what we know from what we have of remains that are not fragmentary. However I do see it as possible that Rex could get bigger we just haven't found "concrete" evidence of it yet.
Lord Vader
MemberTyrannosaurus RexOct-31-2013 8:14 PMThat's true Eustreptosponylus, and I do agree that 45 feet is a reasonable max for Rex.
Gigadino, you do seem a little against Rex. I'd get into my opinion on my idea of a reasonable average for Spino (and why I think that), but I don't want to start another Rex Vs Spino, and it's unnecessary for this discussion.
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MemberCompsognathusOct-31-2013 9:49 PMAll points made are valid.
GigaDino, you mention that Devil Rex, Thomas, and UCMP are all just big juveniles. That'd be a valid point, if only one of them was like that. With 3 different juveniles of different ages all that big and certainly going to be bigger by age 30, it's hard to believe they were just big juveniles. If it were only Thomas or Devil Rex for example, I'd consider it. But with more than one being so large, it's harder to accept that theory.
As far as C-Rex goes(F-Rex too), they are almost certainly Tyrannosaurus(Rex or X).
Finally, just because Sue is the most complete and oldest specimen, does not mean she represents the max size.
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Gigadino
MemberCompsognathusNov-01-2013 4:29 AMOnly because I believe in 40,5 ft Rexy, I'm not a Rexy hater. A Rexy hater don't believe in the 9.5-tonnes estimate as I do...
The same goes with Spino and Gig then. Maybe there is a Spino larger than the largest know Spino or a Gig larger than the largest know Gig.
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